InterCity 225 diagrams after December

[JKF]

Yes, especially when loaded with camping kit!

225: Lift bike into DVT; lean against rack; secure in place with the provided adjustable strap; job done.

Azuma: Lift bike into train; remove front panniers and chuck into space by far door; remove saddlebag and chuck into space by far door; remove rear panniers and chuck into space by far door; get hernia lifting bike onto swaying hook in tiny broom cupboard - at a weird angle 'cos the end bit of the broom cupboard door seems to be permanently locked shut - as train is now moving; look for luggage space for bags; give up and launch them into bottom corner of aforementioned tiny broom cupboard.

I'm not a fan of the Azuma bike spaces, can you tell?

I used to get around (including camping trips) on a Pashley ‘butchers bike’ with the big metal rack on the front. At 24kg unladen lifting it to hang on the hooks when they were using a HST rather than cl91 was barely possible. It was also too wide to get in the narrow cupboard for bikes they had on some of the cl158s.

The other issue with having it in the passenger bit is people fiddling with it, on the transpennine DMUs of near recent times it used to have to be stood in a rack near the door, on one occasion someone (perhaps a child queuing to get off) removed the bungy cord I’d secured it with, and it fell over heavily on a bend breaking a couple of spokes.

 

[Rhydgaled]

Perhaps the answer would be for LNER to just do what EMR/T used to do and publicise which train type was diagrammed to be which in their timetables and make it easier to pick their preference.

Sounds OK but perhaps they are concerned that customers will complain when short notice changes occur.

Indeed. I also think I read somewhere that LNER routinely substitute one of the four IC225 diagrams each day (but not always the same diagram) with an 80x, so only three IC225s are normally out. Not sure if that is still the case or even if it was true to start with.

I note that the diagrams on the 225 Group site are dated Dec 2023 and there is a timetable change coming up in a few days time. Can anyone here confirm whether the IC225 diagrams will remain valid into June (and beyond)?

 

[whg1070]

Indeed. I also think I read somewhere that LNER routinely substitute one of the four IC225 diagrams each day (but not always the same diagram) with an 80x, so only three IC225s are normally out. Not sure if that is still the case or even if it was true to start with.

I note that the diagrams on the 225 Group site are dated Dec 2023 and there is a timetable change coming up in a few days time. Can anyone here confirm whether the IC225 diagrams will remain valid into June (and beyond)?

The diagrams have been updated on the 225 Group website - www.225group.org.uk/operations. The four booked diagrams are also fairly consistently operated by Class 91s and Mark 4s.

 

[Rhydgaled]

The diagrams have been updated on the 225 Group website - www.225group.org.uk/operations. The four booked diagrams are also fairly consistently operated by Class 91s and Mark 4s.

Thanks, good to know.

 

[Trainguy34]

The diagrams have been updated on the 225 Group website - www.225group.org.uk/operations. The four booked diagrams are also fairly consistently operated by Class 91s and Mark 4s.

It doesn't look to have been updated, still saying December 23, can anyone confirm this is the new diagrams as I'm hoping to ride one in July.

 

[Rhydgaled]

It doesn't look to have been updated, still saying December 23, can anyone confirm this is the new diagrams as I'm hoping to ride one in July.

Says "LNER (from Sunday 2nd June 2024)" at the top of the PDF file (downloaded from the 225 group website) for me. Perhaps you need to clear your web browser's cache?

 

[Trainguy34]

Says "LNER (from Sunday 2nd June 2024)" at the top of the PDF file (downloaded from the 225 group website) for me. Perhaps you need to clear your web browser's cache?

Just tried but it doesn't help, can someone post the first workings if possible, can work it out from there.

 

[LUYMun]

Todays services see Intercity225s being put on different diagrams this morning and afternoon due to a trespasser incident in the Grantham area.

 

[whg1070]

Just tried but it doesn't help, can someone post the first workings if possible, can work it out from there.

The usual Monday to Friday diagrams are...

1A09, 1D09, 1A30, 1D21, 1A48 and 1D33
1Y00, 1D06, 1A26, 1D17, 1A41 and 1D30
1A04, 1N81, 1Y84, 1D19, 1A45 and 1D32
1A13, 1D10, 1A31, 1D23, 1A50 and 1N36

The June diagrams also download fine from the 225 Group website for me.

 

[Trainguy34]

The usual Monday to Friday diagrams are...

1A09, 1D09, 1A30, 1D21, 1A48 and 1D33
1Y00, 1D06, 1A26, 1D17, 1A41 and 1D30
1A04, 1N81, 1Y84, 1D19, 1A45 and 1D32
1A13, 1D10, 1A31, 1D23, 1A50 and 1N36

The June diagrams also download fine from the 225 Group website for me.

How odd, thanks!