Gloster
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The first edition of The Grauniad came out on May 5, 1821. How should they (or we) celebrate this? What about a new slogan: Two hundreds years of mispronts. (It is noticeable that auto-correct is happy with Grauniad.)
The same can be true for the BBC or The Daily Mail or any other outlet I feel these days! Probably partly down to the decrease in relevance of actual physical newspapers over the years (literally nobody I know my age or younger - around 30 - buys one) and the increase in needing to have click worthy articles online for that precious ad money (its worth noting that if you aren't in the UK, the BBC website has ads too).But it has expanded to cover the "Anglosphere", one often finds oneself unwittingly reading an article about NZ, USA etc.
I did move to the Independent for a while when it started (1986?), but returned to the Grauniad as I found the Indy too even handed. At least the Grauniad has opinions.I remember giving up the Guardian with some relief the day the Independent started (early 1980s I think). Stayed with the Indy until it went online only, then switched to the Times. Occasionally i've seen discarded copies of the Guardian on trains, but they haven't enticed me to go back to it. The rancorous miserabilism seems to have got worse.
It's the best of the mainstream papers IMO, the news tends to be more factual and well-sourced than the others. The optional paywall is a good socialist approach and hopefully will keep the operation going.
@Butts Papers would be cheaper if more people bought one :P Obviously the fixed costs of printing a paper in colour are massive. Lockdown has probably accelerated the decline of the paper buying habit.
I have a subscription for the Saturday Guardian and (Sunday) Observer, paid quarterly in advance, and it saves a lot on the cover price. Trying to read a whole newspaper online is a miserable experience imo and not to be tackled lightly. I totally approve of the Times/Sunday Times paywall on internet browsing of their content at the moment of publication and, perhaps, for a month or so beyond that.The price of The Guardian ( and many other newspapers is ridiculous) £2.30 is it for the Daily Edition and over £3 for The Saturday version.
Since it went over a quid I'm sure it's price has outpaced inflation by a huge margin - not that they publicise that in it's columns.
To be fair it is not behind a pay wall and is still pretty good.
However at 65p the Ayes (I) have it
I was told that The Guardian would only take back a maximum of four copies from any outlet, so most ordered only just as many as they felt sure of selling. Other papers took back more or all unsold copies.When the newspaper train used to arrive in New Street at about 3am you could normally get a free copy of any national except The Guardian.
I was told that it was the only paper not distributed on ‘a sale or return’ basis but I don’t know whether that was the reason.
When the newspaper train used to arrive in New Street at about 3am you could normally get a free copy of any national except The Guardian.
I was told that it was the only paper not distributed on ‘a sale or return’ basis but I don’t know whether that was the reason.
I was told that The Guardian would only take back a maximum of four copies from any outlet, so most ordered only just as many as they felt sure of selling. Other papers took back more or all unsold copies.
I doubt it. That was probably in the days when papers were distributed by trains that started at the main terminuses. If a train had to be stopped/greatly slowed due to Single Line Working (or often any other reason) en route it was normal for a sorter to chuck out a copy of The Sun or Mirror at the signal box.I remember when you could get the Sunday Newspapers late Saturday Night at a lot of Mainline London Stations - wonder if you still can ?
I doubt it. That was probably in the days when papers were distributed by trains that started at the main terminuses. If a train had to be stopped/greatly slowed due to Single Line Working (or often any other reason) en route it was normal for a sorter to chuck out a copy of The Sun or Mirror at the signal box.
I shouldn’t think they had many to spare as it always sold so few copies, except to the Russian Communist Party.Not The Morning Star ?
I was told that The Guardian would only take back a maximum of four copies from any outlet, so most ordered only just as many as they felt sure of selling. Other papers took back more or all unsold copies.
My comment referred to the situation thirty-five years or so ago, which I think had been little changed for many years. News International caused a massive upheaval within a few years.All publishers have financial unsold targets of varying levels dependent on their manufacturing budget, and all copies are provided on a sale or return basis (firm sale accounts used to exist 10+ years ago but they've been done away with now).
In my younger days, it was the text matter that newspapers were bought for and as such, I still see no need to have any colour enhancements whatsoever.Papers would be cheaper if more people bought one :P Obviously the fixed costs of printing a paper in colour are massive. Lockdown has probably accelerated the decline of the paper buying habit.
In my younger days, it was the text matter that newspapers were bought for and as such, I still see no need to have any colour enhancements whatsoever.