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Of course a commuter service is not going to happen, but no harm in speculating........!
 

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There is indeed no harm in speculating, however we do ask that any speculation takes places exclusively in our Speculative Discussion section, please.

In the meantime, I will lock this thread; in the event that there are any actual updates regarding commuter services, this post can be reported and we'll consider reopening the thread at that time.
 

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Reopened for an update:

The KWVR magazine "Push and Pull" contains an update from the Society Chair which confirms what working members already knew:
"I can assure you that commuter traffic was not part of our submission."

Summary: it is assumed that the funding covers: upgrade to Keighley signalling, signalling Haworth loop, Diesel facility between Ingrow and Keighley including a rail access (!). Fairly sure this was mentioned upthread (more than once).
 

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Reopened for an update:

The KWVR magazine "Push and Pull" contains an update from the Society Chair which confirms what working members already knew:
"I can assure you that commuter traffic was not part of our submission."

Summary: it is assumed that the funding covers: upgrade to Keighley signalling, signalling Haworth loop, Diesel facility between Ingrow and Keighley including a rail access (!). Fairly sure this was mentioned upthread (more than once).
Ah, but never let the truth get in the way of a good discussion!
 

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Ah, but never let the truth get in the way of a good discussion!
It is Bradford Council who brought up commuter services.

Not surprising really as Bradford Council over egg a lot of things and, to be fair, if public money is being given to a heritage railway the public are going to expect something in return so a story about commuter services is a way of suggesting they will get something, even if it is untrue.
 

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Reopened for an update:

The KWVR magazine "Push and Pull" contains an update from the Society Chair which confirms what working members already knew:
"I can assure you that commuter traffic was not part of our submission."

Summary: it is assumed that the funding covers: upgrade to Keighley signalling, signalling Haworth loop, Diesel facility between Ingrow and Keighley including a rail access (!). Fairly sure this was mentioned upthread (more than once).
Would signalling Haworth loop allow for 3 trains in operation along the full line? If so, that's something of a game-changer and helps the railway step things up a gear to compete with the likes of the ELR, SVR NYMR in terms of timetable frequency and number of daily locomotives in operation, further increasing the railway's pull.

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Also, I have changed the the thread title to better reflect what is actually happening, but I've left the OP alone so that the subsequent discussion still makes sense.
 

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As long as it can be staffed of course more trains and triple the number of signalboxes requires more volunteers!
 

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Would signalling Haworth loop allow for 3 trains in operation along the full line? If so, that's something of a game-changer and helps the railway step things up a gear to compete with the likes of the ELR, SVR NYMR in terms of timetable frequency and number of daily locomotives in operation, further increasing the railway's pull.
Both would significantly ease operations on busy days: I think you could operate a 4-train service throughout (using Keighley P3 and 4 alternately) at (say) a 40-minute interval whereas at present for robustness it's nearer hourly. You'd get a long station stop at Haworth.
There's perhaps a reduced safety risk, compared with a signaller controlling running movements at an unsheltered ground frame.
The ordinary 2-train service doesn't need it.
Also, I have changed the the thread title to better reflect what is actually happening, but I've left the OP alone so that the subsequent discussion still makes sense.
Appreciated!
 
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