Liverpool-London Eurovision crowdbuster operated by LSL

[OvergroundMatt]

I was very near the 86 and was speaking to staff on the service at the time of the Kidsgrove situation. They reckoned they were right on the edge of the neutral section. I’m led to believe that we slowed to a stop for some lazy signalling (not helped by Kidsgrove approach control) but given we retained the road across the tracks at Kidsgrove we managed to hold up a Manchester-bound Pendolino. There seemed to be much debate as to whether rolling back some distance was a viable option, seemingly not in the knowledge that a 350 was a block or two behind. The recovery was very good (until, of course, we got stuck behind a 2B stopper on the double track). Plenty of people just missed the northbound Pendolino to make the 1844(?) Cl47 relief from Man Pic, forcing the prospect of a 0 minute connection by taking the hour later service.

Thanks for that info! How do you think we managed to get going again? I notice we seemed to reverse briefly but I don’t know how that would have been achieved.

 

[87015]

Loco fault, not stuck in neutral. Presume LSL description of lazy signalling is they thought they shoould get run of railway rather possibly have to wait for another train?

 

[Steddenm]

Realtime Trains | 1Z58 1844 Manchester Piccadilly to Liverpool Lime Street | 14/05/2023

Real-time train running information for 1Z58 1844 departure from Manchester Piccadilly to Liverpool Lime Street on 14/05/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Is this one of the services? A Manchester to Liverpool service?

 

[DarloRich]

Looked canny decent flying through Cheddington

 

[8A Rail]

Realtime Trains | 1Z58 1844 Manchester Piccadilly to Liverpool Lime Street | 14/05/2023

Real-time train running information for 1Z58 1844 departure from Manchester Piccadilly to Liverpool Lime Street on 14/05/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Is this one of the services? A Manchester to Liverpool service?

That is WCR loco hauled with seven coaches, top and tail Class 47's, No 47813 and 47826. Four 'return' trains today between both cities.

 

[peter166]

1203 Liverpool to Euston Sunday 14/05/23
LSL Mk 3 set so much more comfortable than an Avanti Pendolino (refurbished or not) or LNER Azuma or GWR IET set.
This is much more like what Inter - City travel should look and feel like !

 

[Bletchleyite]

To be fair it is First Class! Personally I'd put it on a par with Pendolino 1st which really is very good.

While I know opinions vary, Standard on the Mk3s to me really was quite rubbish. (Important note: the WCML Mk3s did NOT have an interior like Chiltern; those have had more tables added and been respaced to a First Class spacing as well as the curtains being added and the lighting improved).