LNER Centenary

[Spartacus]

LNER have this morning named 801228 ‘Century’.

Modern Railways on twitter

...and triggered a load of people moaning about the vinyls covering windows, even though they're over the already blanked out ones at the kitchen end

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

New LNER OTOH basically only run the intercity service on a single mainline and a few branches from said mainline. The local and regional services are run by a mix of other operators. Local and regional services are all provided by other operators (GTR, EMR, TPE, Northern and Scotrail) . They also share their line with a bunch of open access operators, something that doesn't happen in the rest of the uK..

Not to mention freight being in open access hands (nationwide).
Also not to mention the non-ECML parts of LNER (ex-GE/GC etc).
A GA Liverpool St-Norwich service is as entitled to the same LNER heritage as one from King's Cross to Edinburgh.
Ditto the now (in)famous ex-GC Wrexham-Bidston service.

 

[Purple Train]

LNER have this morning named 801228 ‘Century’.

Modern Railways on twitter

"100 years of progress"? Must be their 150th anniversary...

Much as I like the brand name, exploiting it for this purpose is totally dishonest at best. As a point of interest: when was the GWR company first established? It pre-dated the Grouping, did it not?

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Much as I like the brand name, exploiting it for this purpose is totally dishonest at best. As a point of interest: when was the GWR company first established? It pre-dated the Grouping, did it not?

The Great Western Railway was formed in 1833, and lasted until nationalisation in 1947.

 

[Purple Train]

The Great Western Railway was formed in 1833, and lasted until nationalisation in 1947.

Thank you

 

[Irascible]

As a point of interest: when was the GWR company first established? It pre-dated the Grouping, did it not?

There were some large ( and quite interesting ) events celebrating GWR 150 in BR days - however it was in 1985. You could get a ( steam ) train to Portishead from Bristol TM, or a train to Bristol Docks, there was a train of preserved GW freight stock on the main line iirc, probably a lot I've forgotten. And there wasn't an actual GWR in existence at the time! Meanwhile, LNER...

 

[The exile]

There were some large ( and quite interesting ) events celebrating GWR 150 in BR days - however it was in 1985. You could get a ( steam ) train to Portishead from Bristol TM, or a train to Bristol Docks, there was a train of preserved GW freight stock on the main line iirc, probably a lot I've forgotten. And there wasn't an actual GWR in existence at the time! Meanwhile, LNER...

As has been pointed out above, there was a pretty good correlation between the “real” GWR and the Western Region (some would say too much!) and indeed, within England at least, its modern reincarnation. The same applies to Southern Railway and its successor Region, not only geographically but also by characteristics.

 

[Doomotron]

The same applies to Southern Railway and its successor Region, not only geographically but also by characteristics.

Assuming you're referring to Southern as a train operator, I can't see that. Most of its operations are now in different franchises, including many of its former flagship routes, and I fail to see how a brand name used by GTR shares many characteristics with the former Southern Railway.

 

[Irascible]

Assuming you're referring to Southern as a train operator, I can't see that. Most of its operations are now in different franchises, including many of its former flagship routes, and I fail to see how a brand name used by GTR shares many characteristics with the former Southern Railway.

I'm quite confident he was referring to the Southern Railway, 1923-1948.

The WR did retain it's identity for a long time, but not sure really how much individualism was left by the mid 80s. The GWR was ( and still is ) a popular subject in the area though.

 

[The exile]

Assuming you're referring to Southern as a train operator, I can't see that. Most of its operations are now in different franchises, including many of its former flagship routes, and I fail to see how a brand name used by GTR shares many characteristics with the former Southern Railway.

I'm quite confident he was referring to the Southern Railway, 1923-1948.

The WR did retain it's identity for a long time, but not sure really how much individualism was left by the mid 80s. The GWR was ( and still is ) a popular subject in the area though.

I was indeed. As to the WR of BR, while the “independent” spirit of operation etc would not have lasted that long, various things contributed to a general “continuity” of an identity. Association with a well-loved holiday area (both real and literary - as well as operationally ) was probably one while for the technically-minded things like lower-quadrant signalling and adistinctive front-line locomotive fleet