Loco Movement from Southall to Swanage 18th oct

[VEP3417]

Realtime Trains | 5Z74 0452 Southall Wcr to Swanage | 18/10/2022

Real-time train running information for 5Z74 0452 departure from Southall Wcr to Swanage on 18/10/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Saw this on rtt, not sure what loco it is being moved but ill try and go and photograph it

 

[SargeNpton]

It it a loco, or it is empty coaching stock?

 

[xotGD]

Flying Scotsman is going to Swanage...

Flying Scotsman at Swanage Railway | National Railway Museum

Located in the Isle of Purbeck, the rebuilt Swanage Railway is the perfect place to enjoy a great family day out on Dorset’s Jurassic Coast.

www.railwaymuseum.org.uk

 

[VEP3417]

well...that will be sight to see

wonder if its being towed/accompanied down or under its own steam as a couple of locos have gone down just with a barrier coach before

 

[MiNi]

Who knows,could be towed by a 47 or 2. Or towed to Salisbury for the steam forward,time will tell.

 

[bishdunster]

Well i dont think that the Scotsman and a support coach will constitute a trailing load of 715 tons !!!

 

[_toommm_]

Well i dont think that the Scotsman and a support coach will constitute a trailing load of 715 tons !!!

It’s just a generic timing load as the Scotsman plus a coach probably doesn’t have one. Trailing load 715 tonnes is used often for OTM/OTP, and they go most places so will have running times for most places.

EDIT: OTM is On-Track Machine, OTP is On-Track Plant.

 

[VEP3417]

not everyone knows all the jargon , you have to be some what able to read/understand all that to work RTT

most light moves or with 1/2 engines and a barrier coach still read 715 tones so it could be confusing if you dont realise its just a generic timing load

 

[zwk500]

Well i dont think that the Scotsman and a support coach will constitute a trailing load of 715 tons !!!

Diesel loco (officially class 56) with 715 tonnes at 60 mph is the default Steam timing load, as it has times for most of the country whilst being generally suitable for loaded steam to keep to time. The planner can adjust those times manually if the bid train is much lighter, and there's a good reason to do so, but it won't show that in RTT.

It it a loco, or it is empty coaching stock?

Loco + Support Coach only is still shown as Class 5.

 

[VEP3417]

RTT dosnt seem to have updated past sailsbury yet,
(edit it shows no report though sailsbury sal/sy240/sal/east yard and jumped straight to tunnel junction at 7.59

thats the only down side that site sometimes only updates in half an hour or so blocks rather than upto date but ill see if i can catch it

 

[Western Sunset]

Tender first or chimney first; anyone know?

 

[DarloRich]

Tender first or chimney first; anyone know?

FS backed out of Kings Cross so you might be able to work it out from that.

 

[zwk500]

Tender first or chimney first; anyone know?

From the look of RTT, it was Chimney-first from Southall so will be Tender-first onto Swanage. Might be wrong though, would need a photo to confirm.

 

[VEP3417]

it was tender first, which diddnt make for great photos but still nice to see

 

[zwk500]

Nice to see it moved on it's own though, no diesel in sight.

 

[VEP3417]

yes, thought the same, it must be deemed in so good condition its very unlikely to brake down so dosnt need a back up

 

[zwk500]

yes, thought the same, it must be deemed in so good condition its very unlikely to brake down so dosnt need a back up

If it's going down to work trains it'll need to be in that condition anyway.

 

[Western Sunset]

Lots of locals out to see it pass through Branksome.

 

[Bessie]

There's a great video on Twitter of all the school kids at Stourfield Junior school out on their field waving and cheering like crazy as FS steamed by.

 

[Western Sunset]

There's a great video on Twitter of all the school kids at Stourfield Junior school out on their field waving and cheering like crazy as FS steamed by.

I recall working there for a while. Sitting in the hall, you could always hear (and feel) the Hamworthy stone train passing...

 

[VEP3417]

any idea when it might be coming back from swanage as ill try and get better photos....try

 

[EbbwJunction1]

According to their web site, "Flying Scotsman will be running on the Swanage Railway for five days from Saturday, 22nd to Wednesday, 26th October." So, I guess that she will be returning on 27th October, but where to and when I've no idea.

 

[Western Sunset]

FS is planned to be at Swanage until at least 6th Nov.

 

[341o2]

Between the 27th of October and 6th November, it will be on static display at Corfe Castle, the last viewing is at 1630.
Given it will then have to be steamed, can't see it leaving before 7th November at the earliest

 

[VEP3417]

ok thanks, im determined to get at least 1 good photo of it on its way back

 

[S2929]

Hello (first time poster)
Just saw the news about The Flying SCotsman at Swanage, and wondered how/when it got there, and more importantly its time and route back.
This posting says it moved down on 18 Oct
Did it pass through Basingstoke (shame, I missed it then)?


Anyone know the route and timings on its way back in early November?

Thanks

Update - realtimetrains showed it did indeed pass through Bramley (a few miles from me, and I missed it!) and Basingstoke

 

[ANDREW_D_WEBB]

Anyone know the route and timings on its way back in early November?

Probably too early for them to be in the system. Keep an eye for STP paths at Wareham around the dates in question. Guaranteed to go through there so you will be able to see the route it is booked to take from there.

 

[Western Sunset]

Nothing in the system yet. I'd say it'll leave on either 7th or 8th. As Andrew states above, keep an eye on RTT around the weekend of 5th/6th when it's put into the system.

 

[341o2]

Any update?

Been informed early Tuesday, but can't find anything on RTT

 

[VEP3417]

ive looked on rtt for this week and nothing shows up either unless it will be a last minute path