London Zone 1-6 Day Travelcard Query

[Andy Pacer]

On a Zone 1 to 6 Travelcard, is it also correct that only buses within the zone are valid too?

 

[Western Sunset]

Plus Croydon trams.

 

[cactustwirly]

On a Zone 1 to 6 Travelcard, is it also correct that only buses within the zone are valid too?

Buses in any zone are valid

 

[Andy Pacer]

Buses in any zone are valid

Thanks, as I thought.

 

[Hophead]

And outwith the zones as well (eg 81 to Slough, 465 to Dorking). In short, any travelcard is always valid on TfL buses wherever you use them.

 

[Andy Pacer]

And outwith the zones as well (eg 81 to Slough, 465 to Dorking). In short, any travelcard is always valid on TfL buses wherever you use them.

Thank you, I thought it was but had a driver on a 372 that wasn't keen.

 

[miklcct]

Are there any non-London buses where a Travelcard can be used?

 

[Surreytraveller]

London Buses don't use zones anymore. Any Travelcard is valid on any London Bus regardless of which zones its valid for

 

[Andy Pacer]

London Buses don't use zones anymore. Any Travelcard is valid on any London Bus regardless of which zones its valid for

Thanks, that reiterates the earlier answers.

 

[Surreytraveller]

Are there any non-London buses where a Travelcard can be used?

Not sure if there is anymore. Can't think of any. Used to be the case that Travelcards were valid on most non-London Buses within London.
But having said that, most of those routes have now come under contract to TfL now

Thanks, that reiterates the earlier answers.

I believe it was to do with the introduction of the Oystercard about 20 years ago. The only way it would work on buses without having to swipe out as well was to have one zoneless flat fare

 

[miklcct]

The only way it would work on buses without having to swipe out as well was to have one zoneless flat fare

There are other implementations elsewhere in the world where the customer has to press a button to choose a fare before tapping the card.

 

[Western Sunset]

Do ENCTS cards register on London buses? I just show mine to the driver.

 

[ac-03]

Thank you, I thought it was but had a driver on a 372 that wasn't keen.

According to Thurrock council Bus 372 is a “cash free” tfl bus. https://www.thurrock.gov.uk/bus-fares/bus-fares-in-thurrock

 

[Andy Pacer]

According to Thurrock council Bus 372 is a “cash free” tfl bus. https://www.thurrock.gov.uk/bus-fares/bus-fares-in-thurrock

I think that goes for all TfL services though...

 

[Surreytraveller]

There are other implementations elsewhere in the world where the customer has to press a button to choose a fare before tapping the card.

Doing that in London would slow down boarding too much, defeating the point of the Oystercard. It would only be necessary for season ticket holders anyway, so even more pointless

 

[londonbridge]

And outwith the zones as well (eg 81 to Slough, 465 to Dorking). In short, any travelcard is always valid on TfL buses wherever you use them.

In contrast, a travelcard must include zone 3, 4, 5 or 6 when using the tram. A zones 1 and 2 only travelcard wouldn’t be valid.

 

[Surreytraveller]

In contrast, a travelcard must include zone 3, 4, 5 or 6 when using the tram. A zones 1 and 2 only travelcard wouldn’t be valid.

The trams are complicated. They've tried to charge them like buses, but as you say, a Travelcard for any of Zone 3, 4, 5 or 6 is valid on any tram. And English Concessionary passes are not valid on them

 

[CyrusWuff]

Not sure if there is anymore. Can't think of any. Used to be the case that Travelcards were valid on most non-London Buses within London.
But having said that, most of those routes have now come under contract to TfL now

Looking at TfL's Conditions of Carriage, the only "non-London" route mentioned is Arriva Kent Thameside's route 477, but only between Orpington Station and Kevington Crouch Farm, which appears to be about halfway between Orpington and Swanley.