Don't forget the extra 25 new buses in the Autumn. Maybe even more expansion!
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You can't forget the cascades for Lothian Country as well!
TheEastCoaster
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I hope the network does grow from this and that Lothian have the chance to capture the West Lothian bus network.
I don’t think we will see the full 25 new electric bzl right away, heard they are having issues getting batteries
How is the technology of these batteries coming along? Still early days. Edinburgh is a hilly city with a lot of starting and stopping. Will the new buses be up to the job? I suppose 291 etc have been OK
LothianBusesPh
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They are installing the battery chargers right now at Central.
Apparently 928 is in Madder.
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CSB0241
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Would anyone be able to tell me how busy the 74 is at Stoneyburn when heading towards Livingston on a Tuesday at roughly noon? I’m wanting to record a journey on it & want to get the upstairs front seats but I’ve actually never been on the 74 on that stretch, let alone board it.
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Unsure what's with the BZLs, but a recent Linkedin post from Matt Goggins, Assistant Director for Bus at Liverpool City Region Combined Authority did say:
..which should rule out any rumors that these have been delayed or part-cancelled.
Seems like it. Really unsure as to what the logic being used is now. 926-928 in madder but 929/30 in white? I can only consider the option of 929-931 (should 931 be painted white) being moved to Lothian Country at a later date..
computerSaysNo
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Why were 926-931 numbered in the 9xx range instead of following on from 301-329 in the 3xx range?
They may have wanted to follow on from 826-925. I don't know why they stopped at 936 and moved to the 300s though.
LothianBusesPh
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Some of the tour Olympians were in the 350s fleet number range meaning they would clash. They were freed up when the 11 plates arrived and for 951-960, they probably didn't want them going into the 400 (with Bus 400 being an exception). At the same time though they did renumber some of the Edinburgh Tour Olympians but that's the most viable reason.
VioletEclipse
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It does seem like we're reaching a number of plain white buses not seen since 2019.
stevenedin
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196 is on the 46 & 48 today https://bustimes.org/vehicles/loth-196
FlybeDash8Q400
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Looks like we can expect to see a frequency increase to the 46 and 48 at the next service change then.
stevenedin
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Either that or an amendment of routes.
ScotRail158725
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926-936 follow on from 301-329 though
FlybeDash8Q400
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926-936 received different fleet numbers as they were unbranded, thus a continuation of 876-925.
301-350 when new were all branded. 301-325 for 26 Connect, 326-350 for 22 Connect.
Why this then got flipped on its head for 351-400, 937-950 and 951-960 I’m not sure.
301-350 when new were all branded. 301-325 for 26 Connect, 326-350 for 22 Connect.
Why this then got flipped on its head for 351-400, 937-950 and 951-960 I’m not sure.
LothianBusesPh
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Most likely to ensure that fleet numbers ended at convenient spots, e.g. 301-400.
TheEastCoaster
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How do you know that?
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Service changes will be announced later this week… watch this space…
NorthEastern
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Wonder if there will be a partial fares increase too.
TheEastCoaster
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I'll take your word for it!
hope it's a big one and not just a few minor timetable revisions and one route change.They only just changed the fares last year, doubt they will do it again this soon.
Blindtraveler
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Maybe a few weeks to airport bus and tram prices, the latter perhaps coming down even only at certain times to give McGill's bright bus something to think about, but I think they need to be very careful what they do with single and they tickets prices as they don't want to be accused of being too expensive and I think aware that not everyone of their passengers he's a student, pass holder or cash happy tourist.
For the tour buses? Those change on the 24th of March..
You probably know more than me, but surely its unusual to announce a change before the registrations?
TheEastCoaster
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Anyone able to get any registrations as they come?
stevenedin
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They should be advertised here https://www.gov.uk/guidance/notices-and-proceedings-for-scotland
Jordan Adam
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Also worth noting the massive increase in seating capacity. Pre-covid when the service operated on a 12 minute frequency with the Volvo 7900H's there was 170 seats per hour, compare that to now on a 10 minute frequency with the Evoras where they are now offering 294 seats per hour.
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Wasn't it every 8-10 minutes before COVID? I don't have the timetables to hand to check but I thought I remembered it being the most frequent route out of Longstone?
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With inflation in the 5% to 10% range over the past year they may not have much choice. No reason why bus fares shouldn't be reviewed and adjusted annually, just like regulated rail fares.
FlybeDash8Q400
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4 more Eclipse2’s are joining Marine’s fleet, taking the number there to 20. The 46/48 currently have a PVR of 14. A frequency increase to every 20 minutes would take this to 21. It’s possible Marine could gain say 39-41 in order to have enough buses for this to work.
Option 2 would be to covert the 45 back to single decks and use them there but I don’t think this is very likely. Marine would still need 39-41 anyway if this were the plan.