Low/non-existent fuel costs in the South?

[absolutelymilk]

According to the table on page 36 of "UK rail industry financial information 2016-17"
http://orr.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf...il-industry-financial-information-2016-17.pdf

Govia Thameslink spent only £2 million on fuel and South Western & South Eastern spent <£0.5 million. This compares to £6 million for Merseyrail electrics, which is well under a tenth of the size of these franchises. Is there some kind of special deal that means these franchises get fuel costs covered?

 

[B&I]

Thameslink have wired their trains up to lampposts for da leccy

 

[hwl]

Electricity technical and legally isn't fuel so shouldn't be in fuel costs. So an opps from Merseyrail fulling out the paperwork.
Traction electricity costs are included in track access charge system.

GTR is just the cl. 171 diesel cost for Uckfield and Marshlink as well as van car forklift etc. usage.

 

[Agent_Squash]

I’d imagine the SWT 158/159 fleet would run up a bigger bill than the smaller 171 fleet?

 

[absolutelymilk]

Strange that c2c and TFL Rail also have it included in fuel costs when they are also all electric!

 

[DarloRich]

Strange that c2c and TFL Rail also have it included in fuel costs when they are also all electric!

electricity isnt free..............

 

[absolutelymilk]

electricity isnt free..............

Yes, so it's strange that GTR, South Western & South Eastern don't include it their fuel bills when Merseyrail, c2c and TFL Rail do!

 

[theironroad]

I'm wondering if the £0 is as a result of incomplete or unavailable data. Iirc me of the other category entries had a footnote saying the £0 was a result of no data.

 

[Clip]

Strange that c2c and TFL Rail also have it included in fuel costs when they are also all electric!

TfL still have the Goblin and im assuming they and C2C may have some diesel shunters around the depots too maybe?

 

[hwl]

Yes, so it's strange that GTR, South Western & South Eastern don't include it their fuel bills when Merseyrail, c2c and TFL Rail do!

Because they pay NR for EC4T so it comes under the "NR and other" accounting line in the TOC data. Merseyrail C2C and TfL Rail have hauled traction electricity out of the out of the NR charges and put it in fuel instead (which will confuse HMRC and HMT as electricity is energy not fuel legally).

EC4T is also exempt from the environmental levy component that most other electricity users pay.

 

[theironroad]

EC4T being?

 

[hwl]

EC4T being?

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