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[33056]

There is a 1Z93 just about to leave Willesden for Shieldmuir with 86701 and should be a 1Z94 arriving back the the PRDC around mid-day with 87002.

1Z93
Bletchley 0717
Rugby 0740
Stafford 0830
Warrington BQ 0933
Lancaster 1045
Carlisle 1142
Beattock Summ 1227
Shieldmuir 1256

1Z94
Beattock Summ 0653
Carlisle 0726
Lancaster 0815
Warrington BQ 0916
Stafford 0959
Rugby 1042
v. Northampton 1100
Bletchley 1115

 

[TGVDUDE]

cheers, won't be able to see it today, any workings for next week please?

 

[33056]

Well I would imagine on the Southern end it will be just the usual Mon - Fri

1F00 0640 Willesden - Warrington
1S96 1626 Willesden - Shieldmuir
1A91 1700 Warrington - Willesden
1A97 1932 Warrington - Willesden

Will quite likely still be loco hauled but, with the inclement weather, I would not like to hazard a guess as to what will happen with regards to actual running / extra trains etc.

PS I also notice that there is half a 325 (two coaches) in the "Wagon Shops" at Stonebridge, presume the rest is inside for tyre turning or repairs.

 

[captainbigun]

PS I also notice that there is half a 325 (two coaches) in the "Wagon Shops" at Stonebridge, presume the rest is inside for tyre turning or repairs.

Motor change....for what it's worth!

 

[TGVDUDE]

cheers

 

[captainbigun]

Two extras in for next week:

1Z94 11/01/10 - 15/01/10

Shieldmuir 0442
Carlisle 0600
Preston 0722
Dallam 0747 - 0807
Crewe 0830 - 0834
Stafford 0858
Rugby 0953
Northampton 1014
Watford Jn 1106
Willesden 1135


1Z95 11/01/10 - 15/01/10

Willesden 0530
Watford Jn 0607
Northampton 0648
Rugby 0706
Stafford 0746
Crewe 0802
Acton Bridge 0819 - 0824 (pathing stop)
Dallam 0836 - 0856
Preston 0936 - 0945
Carlisle 1051
Shieldmuir 1217

Thanks to MB for the times.

 

[33056]

Two extras in for next week......

Noticed those earlier, better hurry up and sort some more units out if these are to run, though I believe that some shuffling / sorting is to take place at the Southern end of the operation later today (only in the Willesden area before anybody gets too excited!)

 

[networkrail1]

why are they loco hauled

 

[captainbigun]

why are they loco hauled

...because the 325 fleet is a bit sick and it's the only means of getting some of them from A to B.

 

[TGVDUDE]

Sorry to ask again but will they still be loco hauled on the Friday the 22nd and also what are the timings for workings on Friday please?

 

[captainbigun]

Can't say for sure, but I'd expect at least 1 of the diagrams to be hauled then, maybe 2. Times as above, unless you're after those north of Warrington?

 

[TGVDUDE]

nah, as close to Willseden as possible. but don't worry anymore, my friend is getting me some GEN

 

[HSTChris]

I heard from a friend that there might be some additional diagrammes for this Saturday, is there any truth in this? he's not the most trustworthy of sources shall we say :P

 

[captainbigun]

The diagrams are the same every day, however they often run late or very late, it's a bit of a lotto. I'm not aware of additionals this Sat, there were last Sat so it is possible they will run this week too. However, even if they are running there's no guarantee that they will be loco hauled. There are currently two pairs of working 325s.

 

[HSTChris]

Ahh, I'm not fussed whether it's loco hauled or not, I just want to see a mail train!

IF they do run on Saturday, what sort of time of day will it be? I know you can't be very exact, but are we talking morning, lunchtime, afternoon? I'm heading to the area anyway, but I'd like to go at the time of day in which I have a higher chance of seeing them.

 

[captainbigun]

I assume it would be the same 1Z93 and 1Z94 that ran last Sat, times at the top of this page.

 

[HSTChris]

Thanks, I'll print those off.

Do the second lot run to Willesden? The time isn't on there?

 

[captainbigun]

Full times from last Sat (thanks to MB):
Train 071Z941609
SHIELDMRM 06:26 06:30M 4 LATE
LAW JN PASS 06:31 06:35A 4 LATE
LANARK JN PASS 06:36 06:40A 4 LATE M LINE
CARSTAIRS PASS 06:38 06:42A 4 LATE
CARSTSSJN PASS 06:38 06:42A 4 LATE
ABINGTON PASS 06:47 06:52A 5 LATE
BEATOKSUM PASS 06:53 06:58A 5 LATE
BEATTOCK PASS 06:59 07:04A 5 LATE
LOCKERBIE PASS 07:07 07:12A 5 LATE
COVE862&3 PASS 07:17 07:22A 5 LATE
GRETNA JN PASS 07:20 07:25A 5 LATE
CARLISLE PASS 07:26 07:32A 6 LATE
PENRITH PASS 07:40 07:49A 9 LATE
TEBAY PASS 07:53 08:04A 11 LATE
OXENHOLME PASS 08:02 08:13A 11 LATE
CRNFTHNJN PASS 08:11 08:21A 10 LATE
MORCM SJN PASS 08:13 08:24A 11 LATE
LANCASTER PASS 08:15 08:26A 11 LATE M LINE
PRESTON PASS 08:31 08:41A 10 LATE Z LINE
EUXTON JN PASS 08:35 08:52A 17 LATE F LINE
BLSHAWLJN PASS 08:36 08:53A 17 LATE
WIGAN NW PASS 08:41 08:59A 18 LATE
WIGAN SJN PASS 08:42
SPRINGSBJ PASS 08:42 09:01A 19 LATE M LINE
WINWICK J PASS 08:47 09:24A 37 LATE S LINE
WARRTNRMT 08:52 09:12 09:29A 09:54A 42 LATE F LINE
WARRDALLJ PASS 09:14
WARRTN BQ PASS 09:16 09:56A 40 LATE F LINE
ACTNGNGJN PASS 09:18 09:58A 40 LATE
WEAVER JN PASS 09:21 10:02A 41 LATE M LINE
ACTONBDGE PASS 09:22 10:03A 41 LATE
HARTFORDJ PASS 09:24 10:05A 41 LATE
WINSFORD PASS 09:27 10:08A 41 LATE F LINE
CWECOALYD PASS 09:32 10:12A 40 LATE
CREWE 09:34 09:41 10:14A 10:14M 33 LATE
CREWEBHJN PASS 09:44 N/R
MADELEY PASS 09:48 N/R
NORTONBGE PASS 09:55 10:28A 33 LATE F LINE
STAFFORD PASS 09:59 10:31A 32 LATE F LINE
COLWICH PASS 10:07 10:36A 29 LATE F LINE
RUGELYNJN PASS 10:10 10:37A 27 LATE F LINE
LICHFLDNJ PASS 10:15 10:42A 27 LATE
AMINGTONJ PASS 10:21 10:47A 26 LATE F LINE
NUNEATON PASS 10:31 10:54A 23 LATE F LINE
NEWBOLDJN PASS 10:40 11:03A 23 LATE S LINE
RUGBY TVJ PASS 10:41 11:04A 23 LATE N LINE
RUGBY PASS 10:42 11:05A 23 LATE N LINE
HILMORTNJ PASS 10:44 11:06A 22 LATE N LINE
LNGBUCKBY PASS 10:51 11:13A 22 LATE
NORTHAMPT PASS 11:00 11:22A 22 LATE M LINE
HANSLOPEJ PASS 11:09 11:30A 21 LATE S LINE
MILTON KC PASS 11:13 11:35A 22 LATE S LINE
BLETCHLEY PASS 11:15 11:38A 23 LATE S LINE
LEDBURNJN PASS 11:20 11:45A 25 LATE S LINE
TRING PASS 11:24 11:48A 24 LATE S LINE
BORNE END PASS 11:27 11:53A 26 LATE S LINE
WATFORDJN PASS 11:34 12:02A 28 LATE S LINE
HARROWWLD PASS 11:38 12:10A 32 LATE S LINE
WEMBLEY C PASS 11:44 12:15A 31 LATE S LINE
SUDBURYJN PASS 11:45 12:17A 32 LATE S LINE
WILSDNDCJ PASS 11:49
WLSDDCREC 11:52 12:00 12:20A 12:42A 42 LATE
WLSDNPRDC 12:02 12:44A 42 LATE
Off Booked Route Reports -------
EARLESTWN 09:22 09:22 E LINE VIA WINWICK


Train 721Z931609
WLSDNPRDC 06:35 06:54A 19 LATE 3 LINE
WLSDDCREC 06:37 06:45 06:56A 06:57A 12 LATE
WILSDNDCJ PASS 06:47
SUDBURYJN PASS 06:51 07:02A 11 LATE R LINE
WEMBLEY C PASS 06:53 07:04A 11 LATE S LINE
NWEMBLYJN PASS 06:54 07:06A 12 LATE F LINE
HARROWWLD PASS 06:56 07:09A 13 LATE F LINE
WATFORDJN PASS 06:59 07:13A 14 LATE F LINE
BORNE END PASS 07:04 07:18A 14 LATE F LINE
TRING PASS 07:08 07:22A 14 LATE F LINE
LEDBURNJN PASS 07:12 07:25A 13 LATE F LINE
BLETCHLEY PASS 07:17 07:31A 14 LATE F LINE
MILTON KC PASS 07:19 07:33A 14 LATE F LINE
HANSLOPEJ PASS 07:23 07:37A 14 LATE F LINE
WEEDON PASS 07:31 07:45A 14 LATE
HILMORTNJ PASS 07:38 07:52A 14 LATE F LINE
RUGBY PASS 07:40 07:53A 13 LATE F LINE
RUGBY TVJ PASS 07:42 N/R
BRINKLOW PASS 07:46 07:56A 10 LATE F LINE
ATTLBROSJ PASS 07:50 08:01A 11 LATE S LINE
NUNEATON PASS 07:52 08:03A 11 LATE S LINE
AMINGTONJ PASS 08:02 08:14A 12 LATE S LINE
LICHFLDNJ PASS 08:08 08:20A 12 LATE S LINE
RUGELYNJN PASS 08:14 08:27A 13 LATE S LINE
COLWICH PASS 08:24 08:29A 5 LATE M LINE
STAFFORD PASS 08:30 08:34A 4 LATE T LINE
NORTONBGE PASS 08:34 08:38A 4 LATE
MADELEY PASS 08:41 08:45A 4 LATE F LINE
CREWEBHJN PASS 08:46 08:48A 2 LATE F LINE
CREWE PASS 08:48 08:50A 2 LATE F LINE
CWECOALYD PASS 08:48 08:51A 3 LATE
WINSFORD PASS 08:53 08:55A 2 LATE
HARTFORDJ PASS 08:57 08:58A 1 LATE F LINE
ACTONBDGE PASS 08:58 08:59A 1 LATE
WEAVER JN PASS 09:00 09:00A RT TIME M LINE
ACTNGNGJN PASS 09:04 09:04A RT TIME M LINE
WARRTNWOJ PASS 09:06
WARRTN BQ 09:31 09:33 09:08A 09:08A 25 EARLY F LINE
WARRDALLJ PASS 09:35
WARRTNRMT 09:38 10:06 09:11A 09:38A 28 EARLY S LINE
WINWICK J PASS 10:11 09:50A 21 EARLY
SPRINGSBJ PASS 10:16 09:59A 17 EARLY M LINE
WIGAN SJN PASS 10:17
WIGAN NW PASS 10:17 10:01A 16 EARLY
BLSHAWLJN PASS 10:22 10:08A 14 EARLY S LINE
EUXTON JN PASS 10:24 10:11A 13 EARLY S LINE
PRESTON PASS 10:28 10:21A 7 EARLY T LINE
LANCASTER 10:43 10:46 10:43A 10:43M 3 EARLY
MORCM SJN PASS 10:49 10:45A 4 EARLY
CRNFTHNJN PASS 10:51 10:49A 2 EARLY M LINE
OXENHOLME PASS 10:59 10:58A 1 EARLY
TEBAY PASS 11:09 11:08A 1 EARLY
PENRITH PASS 11:22 11:26A 4 LATE
CARLISLE PASS 11:42 11:40A 2 EARLY
GRETNA JN PASS 11:50 11:47A 3 EARLY
QUINTHLPS 11:53 12:01 11:48A 11:48A 13 EARLY
COVE862&3 PASS 12:04 11:49A 15 EARLY
LOCKERBIE PASS 12:12 11:57A 15 EARLY
BEATTOCK PASS 12:20 12:05A 15 EARLY
BEATOKSUM PASS 12:27 12:19A 8 EARLY
ABINGTON PASS 12:32 12:27A 5 EARLY
CARSTSSJN PASS 12:42 12:43A 1 LATE
CARSTAIRS PASS 12:43 12:44A 1 LATE
LANARK JN PASS 12:44 12:46A 2 LATE
LAW JN PASS 12:51 12:54A 3 LATE
SHIELDMRM 12:56 13:00M 4 LATE

 

[HSTChris]

Thanks for those, hopefully the first one will run again