D365
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And a portion of the A1123 St Ives (Cambs) bypass.Three important roads in the Fens are on old railways:
A141 Chatteris-March
A17 Kings Lynn-Sutton Bridge
A16 Spalding-Boston
And a portion of the A1123 St Ives (Cambs) bypass.Three important roads in the Fens are on old railways:
A141 Chatteris-March
A17 Kings Lynn-Sutton Bridge
A16 Spalding-Boston
And the A470 at the Dolgellau bypass? (Or is that the A494 mentioned above?)Part of the old Vale of Clwyd alignment leaving Ruthin to the south is called "Beechings". The Craft Centre there, on the old station site, still has an old railway crane in its grounds.
Some of the closed rail alignments in North Wales were reused for roads, eg the A541 at Nannerch (Mold-Denbigh), the A494 between Bala and Dolgellau, and the A483 through Welshpool.
In fact at Welshpool the modern A483 runs through the old station (station building and platform still in place), while the railway was shifted eastwards via new platforms.
Following the fire in the original tubular bridge structure, the A5 was diverted to run on top of the railway Britannia bridge across the Menai Straits, with the railway, now singled, running underneath the road deck.
The A487 nearby also reuses some of the alignment of the Bangor-Caernarfon line.
A feasibility report into reopening that line says a new rail alignment would need to be built in places, as a result.
Another conversion was on the GWR Market Drayton-Wellington route where in several places the A53/A442 now uses the old rail alignment.
Understand he lived at a biggish property just off the A22 (Lewes Road) at the edge of East Grinstead. Believe this was actually a nine-bedroomed mansion house set in six landscaped acres! It looks about a mile-and-a-half from East Grinstead railway station.The vicinity certainly, although I think he may have lived outside the town itself in the surrounding countryside.
I've driven that many times and yet I didn't know it was on an old railway alignment. Which former line is the road built on?The A34 Newbury bypass.
The old Didcot, Newbury and Southampton line, at least the section between Newbury and Winchester.I've driven that many times and yet I didn't know it was on an old railway alignment. Which former line is the road built on?
Also some older parts of the A34 a bit further south, near Whitchurch and Lichfield, are built over the former DNS, and theres a relatively short buried stretch just north of the A33/A34 merge near Kings Worthy.The A34 Newbury bypass.
It also lies on a couple of short stretches of railway near Bowes and Kirby Thore.There is a lengthy stretch of the A66 from west of Keswick to just east of Cockermouth which mostly uses the trackbed of the former railway line between those two towns.
A22 in East Grinstead. It’s called Beeching Way.
Sadly an attempt to name that section of the A22 "Beeching Cut" didn't go through - the road travels through what was a very deep railway cutting!IIRC, the 'good doctor' was a resident of East Grinstead.
Doesn't the M25 use the former Westerham branch alignment between just west of Junction 5?
The M25 is over the Westerham branch alignment from just west of junction 5 to just east of Beggars Lane in Westerham (now the A233).Re: M25 - yes, I think you're right. I forgot that I had watched YouTube "Auto Shenanigans" about that very topic.
The old station master's house is off to the side of the M25's boundary.
I can't recall if the M25 used the old railway alignment, or the area of the old goods yard.
What a fascinating backstory and many thanks for sharing it. I love learning about things like this.I set out the original centreline and fence lines on that stretch! East of Brasted Hill Road the centre line was within the old railway cutting, which was full of fallen trees, and partly flooded as the old railway drainage was blocked. There was no simple way to set pegs through there, so I think in the end I calculated an offset line clear of the cutting and we set the fence lines from that.
At Brasted station there was still a coal merchant operating out of the old goods yard. We took part of their land, but I think the business did survive for a while after the motorway was built.
When we removed the old railway embankment west of the station, the lower levels were big lumps of uncompacted clay with voids between them. Below that was a layer of dead grass and topsoil from the original field surface, as the railway builders hadn't even stripped the totopsoil.
It was my second project after graduating - hard to believe it's nearly 50 years ago! I still regularly meet a couple of other engineers from that job (all of us now retired of course).What a fascinating backstory and many thanks for sharing it. I love learning about things like this.
We only see their successes today. I think contractors have always been tempted to shortcuts where they could get away with them - not that we ever tried that of courseSo, the Victorian civil engineers weren't always as rigorous as they should have been....
Indeed and some are etched into railway folklore:I think contractors have always been tempted to shortcuts where they could get away with them.