Yes - see an exampleIts perhaps a peculiar question but is Platform 12 used for Passenger services at all ? I guess its limited by its length
Although its far more common for platforms 8, 9 or 10 being used for this service in my experience.
Ah okay. i know before Covid when i used the service platform 8 used to be quite common. I think 10 was used the last twice i went to Manchester.8 wouldn't be normal, as most hours it's allocated the xx:25 arrival from Chester (which goes back out at xx:10) and the xx:41 arrival from Crewe (which goes back out at xx:06). So the TfW Rail unit would be blocked in until 40 minutes after its departure time, if it went in there!
Using another terminal platform doesn't really change capacity to 13/14, unless you're also using a different arrival line.I think both 11 and 12 have limited movements to maximise capacity for 13 and 14. Services to Chester via Altrincham used to be allocated platform 11 but they are now allocated lower number platforms.
A four-coach train on local services seems adequate.
AIUI northern normally park a 3 car EMU in it for most of the day, it comes out in the evening rush hour and is also sometimes used if they need a spare train in a hurry.Its perhaps a peculiar question but is Platform 12 used for Passenger services at all ? I guess its limited by its length
Its perhaps a peculiar question but is Platform 12 used for Passenger services at all ? I guess its limited by its length
The TFW service to South Wales has used Platform 12 quite a few times. Although its far more common for platforms 8, 9 or 10 being used for this service in my experience.
A few years ago, 8 was the norm for most TfW services, but I've not been in there for years.8 wouldn't be normal, as most hours it's allocated the xx:25 arrival from Chester (which goes back out at xx:10) and the xx:41 arrival from Crewe (which goes back out at xx:06). So the TfW Rail unit would be blocked in until 40 minutes after its departure time, if it went in there!
I think TFW may have used Platform 3 and definately platform 5. Never known it to go from 1 or 2, thats almost always local Northern services or TPE services to Leeds.A few years ago, 8 was the norm for most TfW services, but I've not been in there for years.
These days 10 is the most common, but there are occasional trips to the lower numbered platforms during the day. 67/MKIV services can't go into 11 or 12 - when they get extended to 5 car they'll only just fit into 10.
TfW can use any platform between 1-14*, and almost certainly have (2 is the only one I've not personally been out of yet).I think TFW may have used Platform 3 and definately platform 5. Never known it to go from 1 or 2, thats almost always local Northern services or TPE services to Leeds.
I had a feeling 10 was more common now, often there is a Northern train in front.
I had a feeling 10 was more common now, often there is a Northern train in front.
*Chester/North Wales services can obviously only use 13&14.
Indeed, but there are no longer any TFW crews who sign that way so it is no longer an option.Pre-COVID if there was engineering works on the between Bank Quay and Manchester on Sundays, they diverted via Altrincham, so people may well have seen services to North Wales in the terminus platforms at Piccadilly.
No, it heads up to the "lounge" (read glorified seating area) for Platform P13/P14, as well as going down to Fairfield St.Does the lift on Platform 12 still only go down from the platform?
Yes, I’ve been on an Alderley Edge service from platform 12 which used the set during the day, normally it stays there until working 2K50 17:18 to Stoke as it did today but sometimes the presence of a ‘spare’ set there during the day means it can be used on other services.AIUI northern normally park a 3 car EMU in it for most of the day, it comes out in the evening rush hour and is also sometimes used if they need a spare train in a hurry.
For as long as I remember using that lift (probablly a decade or so, but I don't remember when I first discovered it) it has been 3 level. 0 is fairfield street, 2 is platform 12 and 3 is the link bridge lounge.Does the lift on Platform 12 still only go down from the platform?
I believe so, yes, although I don't have the info to hand of usable length to know whether any 4 car unit can go in, or if some (with longer bodies) would be too long.Is a four coach length train the maximum that can be accommodated at Manchester Piccadilly platform 12?
The Sectional Appendix (https://sacuksprodnrdigital0001.blob.core.windows.net/sectional-appendix/Sectional Appendix full PDFs December 23/London North Western (North) Sectional Appendix December 2023.pdf) says 97m or 107 yards.Is a four coach length train the maximum that can be accommodated at Manchester Piccadilly platform 12?
I don't know which of 10,11 or 12 it was but I do know a Pendolino went in there fairly recently....I also recall hearing of longer trains being signalled in, putting the cab beyond the signal and leading to fun and games to move it out again