Manchester Train Driver rota/shifts

[mmsg1998]

Hi everyone,

Is anyone happy to share their shifts/rotas so I can get an idea of what’s to come please?

TIA

 

[driver9000]

Which company? There's a few options in Manchester.

 

[mmsg1998]

Which company? There's a few options in Manchester.

Sorry it’s Northern Rail!

 

[driver9000]

Northern at Manchester Victoria and Piccadilly are under ex First North Western conditions so Sunday is outside the working week. I don't know what the shifts or link structure are like these days but the rest day pattern repeats over a 3 week cycle.

Week 1. Monday/Tuesday.
Week 2. Wednesday/Thursday.
Week 3. Friday/Saturday (including Sunday off).

 

[Taylor-j01]

What about northern west depots
it was Sunday (outside voluntary) ?

but have things changed last few years with sunday services; Is it now sunday commited or inside?

 

[scrapy]

Sundays committed

 

[nolypops83]

Sundays committed

That's interesting, when did that change?

 

[Taylor-j01]

Thanks

So a northern driver advertised 4 day week/35 hr week is not included in that or the salary

Overtime on the sunday which is committed is classed as overtime and would be in addition to the salary they are offering

So really the 62k salary is more than 70k when sundays are factored in

 

[scrapy]

Correct, although if drivers don't want to work them they don't have to if they can be covered, although this can be hard as the rate for a Sunday is less than the rest day rate for a weekday, and for those that work them it ends up being an average around a 37 hour week for 70k.

That's interesting, when did that change?

Has been the case for many years. It's guards that have Sundays outside and voluntary, which is the reason for the current reduced timetable.

Should be noted that Barrow and Blackpool depots have drivers that are on ex TPE conditions and Sundays are part of the working week. Not the case for Manchester depots though.

 

[nolypops83]

Correct, although if drivers don't want to work them they don't have to if they can be covered, although this can be hard as the rate for a Sunday is less than the rest day rate for a weekday, and for those that work them it ends up being an average around a 37 hour week for 70k.

Has been the case for many years. It's guards that have Sundays outside and voluntary, which is the reason for the current reduced timetable.

Should be noted that Barrow and Blackpool depots have drivers that are on ex TPE conditions and Sundays are part of the working week. Not the case for Manchester depots though.

Thanks, I must have got my wires crossed.

 

[Taylor-j01]

great info
so if its forced overtime how many times a month are allocated?
Whats common every sunday or just mostly one a month?
Assuming normal guard service too

I know Northerns rest days were fixed mon/tues week 1
Wed/thurs week 2
Fri/sat week 3 etc..

 

[Taylor-j01]

Does anyone know on average how many sundays a month northern west drivers work committed sundays?

Sure I read it was 1 in 4