Merseyrail Class 777 introduction updates

[221101 Voyager]

Where was it - Bletchley CS? Units don't get graffitied often there, the site is reasonably secure.

Speaking of trains getting vandalised, I've seen a few LNWR ones have been targeted recently, so it's not suprising to see them attack brand new units.

It's a real shame, but security for rail storage obviously needs to be tougher, as TOCs otherwise spend money getting units cleaned up again.

What's easier? Spending money on better security or wasting time and money getting a team to clean trains?

 

[Skie]

Bear in mind that this was an unplanned stabling of the train after faults. You could make the most secure location in the world but if something breaks en-route and you have to just leave something in the nearest available siding for 12 hours there isn't much you can do. Even getting a 'security guard' to attend at short notice would be fraught with problems, including PTS and familiarity with local briefings and area knowledge.

If they do plan to leave units overnight, I'm sure the security arrangements will have been improved over those seen on the first graffiti incident. This incident has to go down in the "**** happens" column though.

 

[221101 Voyager]

Bear in mind that this was an unplanned stabling of the train after faults. You could make the most secure location in the world but if something breaks en-route and you have to just leave something in the nearest available siding for 12 hours there isn't much you can do. Even getting a 'security guard' to attend at short notice would be fraught with problems, including PTS and familiarity with local briefings and area knowledge.

If they do plan to leave units overnight, I'm sure the security arrangements will have been improved over those seen on the first graffiti incident. This incident has to go down in the "**** happens" column though.

Fair enough, totally agree with all of that.

 

[FrodshamJnct]

A better view:

 

[221101 Voyager]

A better view:

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How do people who do this sleep at night! It really frustrates me and I imagine everyone else too!

Seeing trains like this really bugs my OCD, I just want to get the tools and clean it all off!

 

[FrodshamJnct]

How do people who do this sleep at night! It really frustrates me and I imagine everyone else too!

Seeing trains like this really bugs my OCD, I just want to get the tools and clean it all off!

Same. I absolutely hate it.

 

[221101 Voyager]

Same. I absolutely hate it.

What's is even more annoying is that I was looking forward to seeing 6X29 with the two now mucky 777s on. However, becuase it failed it didn't reach me and found out it went through my local station overnight and was so disappointed. I've only ever seen one 777 on a previous move many months earlier in the year.

Still see if I can catch another one coming through, if it doesn't break down again!

 

[FrodshamJnct]

What's is even more annoying is that I was looking forward to seeing 6X29 with the two now mucky 777s on. However, becuase it failed it didn't reach me and found out it went through my local station overnight and was so dissappointed. I've only ever seen one 777 on a previous move many months earlier in the year.

Still see if can catch another one coming through, if it doesn't break down again!

I think the troublesome barrier wagon is at Crewe for tyre turning. 66779 and 66783 have gone to Tuebrook Sidings on 6Z29 tonight, with the 777s still at Crewe.

 

[221101 Voyager]

I think the troublesome barrier wagon is at Crewe for tyre turning. 66779 and 66783 have gone to Tuebrook Sidings on 6Z29 tonight, with the 777s still at Crewe.

Damn wagons! Crewe? I can't go that far to see it! I'm in Milton Keynes and it's a long way from me! Like I say just have to wait until another 777 comes through if it makes it as far as MK, that is!

I look forward to going on these units post covid as they look really nice! Shame I might not get to ride the PEPs first though!

 

[L401CJF]

Speaking of trains getting vandalised, I've seen a few LNWR ones have been targeted recently, so it's not suprising to see them attack brand new units.

It's a real shame, but security for rail storage obviously needs to be tougher, as TOCs otherwise spend money getting units cleaned up again.

What's easier? Spending money on better security or wasting time and money getting a team to clean trains?

 

[ADHDTog]

Damn wagons! Crewe? I can't go that far to see it! I'm in Milton Keynes and it's a long way from me! Like I say just have to wait until another 777 comes through if it makes it as far as MK, that is!

I look forward to going on these units post covid as they look really nice! Shame I might not get to ride the PEPs first though!

If it makes you feel any better, I live on Merseyside and haven't got to see a 777 in motion because of lockdown and the limitations of Long Covid.

 

[221101 Voyager]

If it makes you feel any better, I live on Merseyside and haven't got to see a 777 in motion because of lockdown and the limitations of Long Covid.

I does make me feel a little better, I hope things improve in your area soon and that long term you recover from long COVID.

Still things can only get better from now, right?
Hopefully, in a year or two we can all have a go on the 777s!

 

[Roger B]

If it makes you feel any better, I live on Merseyside and haven't got to see a 777 in motion because of lockdown and the limitations of Long Covid.

So sorry to read you're suffering with long covid. Wishing you a full and speedy recovery.

 

[FrodshamJnct]

66779 and 66783 returned to Crewe from Tuebrook Sidings today on 0G49, without any barrier wagons (which presumably have been left at Tuebrook).

 

[Grumpy Git]

I can't believe they go to the expense of using two damn great big goods loco's to pull a bit of an EMU up the WCML, but have no way of stopping some snotty nosed yob(s) of vandalising them?

Lets be honest, they will never look as good as they did when they left the paint shop now.

 

[43096]

I can't believe they go to the expense of using two damn great big goods loco's to pull a bit of an EMU up the WCML, but have no way of stopping some snotty nosed yob(s) of vandalising them?

Lets be honest, they will never look as good as they did when they left the paint shop now.

How else do you propose moving them, then?

 

[Grumpy Git]

How else do you propose moving them, then?

Who said anything about how they are moved? I'm on about protecting the load.

 

[43096]

Who said anything about how they are moved? I'm on about protecting the load.

How do you propose doing that when it is stopped out of course for a vehicle defect? It's not exactly predictable where (and indeed if) that might happen.

 

[childwallblues]

If it makes you feel any better, I live on Merseyside and haven't got to see a 777 in motion because of lockdown and the limitations of Long Covid.

i live in Liverpool less than five miles from Kirkdale Depot and due to self isolating also have not seen one yet. Still when the siuation improves it should not be too long before I clear them for both sighying and riding.
I rode the 507/508 many many times and rode all 177 carriages in the 59 units that were in service priot to the recent withdrawals.

 

[Bletchleyite]

How do you propose doing that when it is stopped out of course for a vehicle defect? It's not exactly predictable where (and indeed if) that might happen.

Where was it parked? Bletchley CS?

 

[LeylandLen]

Yes I beleive it was delayed for a while at Willesden .Seemes they thought it was ok to proceed but only made it to Bletchley CS .
Thinks its at Crewe now .

 

[FrodshamJnct]

Yes I beleive it was delayed for a while at Willesden .Seemes they thought it was ok to proceed but only made it to Bletchley CS .
Thinks its at Crewe now .

It was delayed at Willesden with a brake issue with 66779. That was fixed and then wheel flats had developed on one of the barrier wagons so cancelled at Bletchley. A new path was put in for that night at 1:10AM and it eventually made it to Crewe around 5:30AM. The 2 777 units remain there. The barrier wagon is also getting tyre turned there.

A path has now gone in to move the 2 x 777 units tomorrow. 6X29 leaving Crewe at 17:12. Due at Kirkdale at 00:36.

 

[Ladder23]

Any idea when/ what units are due to arrive in the country try next?

 

[Grumpy Git]

It was delayed at Willesden with a brake issue with 66779. That was fixed and then wheel flats had developed on one of the barrier wagons so cancelled at Bletchley. A new path was put in for that night at 1:10AM and it eventually made it to Crewe around 5:30AM. The 2 777 units remain there. The barrier wagon is also getting tyre turned there.

A path has now gone in to move the 2 x 777 units tomorrow. 6X29 leaving Crewe at 17:12. Due at Kirkdale at 00:36.

7½ hours from Crewe to Kirkdale, have they replaced the 66 with Shergar?

 

[Pacef8]

Needs the time for the paint to dry.

 

[Grumpy Git]

Needs the time for the paint to dry.

the vandals could walk alongside at that speed.

 

[FrodshamJnct]

7½ hours from Crewe to Kirkdale, have they replaced the 66 with Shergar?

Booked for a long stop at Tuebrook Sidings - arrives 18:51 and leaves at 00:02.

 

[trainmania100]

How do people who do this sleep at night! It really frustrates me and I imagine everyone else too!

I think you'll find that the graffiti is likely done at night time, so therefore they don't sleep at night

 

[221101 Voyager]

I think you'll find that the graffiti is likely done at night time, so therefore they don't sleep at night

Alright smartie, you know what I mean!

Alright I'll change it. How do these people sleep! It really frustrates me and I imagine everyone else too!

Better?

 

[Grumpy Git]

Booked for a long stop at Tuebrook Sidings - arrives 18:51 and leaves at 00:02.

Thanks Tom.