Unless you get to Gateacre first, then you are not going to get to anywhere else, that is a simple fact but you seem to overlook that. [...] Is it a 'doable' shorter option (funding permitted) and one that would I think succeed.
Yeah, I said I agree. That's what "at first" means.
The prime purpose of a station at Gateacre is because of the large catchment area (which includes Netherley) for people primarily who are wishing to travel to Liverpool City Centre not Knotty Ash, West Derby, or Aintree (you have an electric bus to do that).
The point of the line is to get people to transfer stations like Broadgreen, Aintree and South Parkway. More of this
"if the line doesn't go directly to Central with no stops in-between, then no-one will EVER use it" nonsense... I'm yet to hear a good argument as to why Scousers can't make one interchange on a journey, or why people there deserve to have no choice other than cars because we aren't bulldozing houses or digging behemoth tunnels to bee-line them to Town.
That is an easy fix compared what you would wish and I also would use my car less too, which is the point you are attempting to make!
That still leaves a lot of people in that orange area, ignoring how cramped both the trains and the tracks would be at rush hour, as opposed to the fully segregated route of the Extension line!
You certainly do not want buffer stops on both platforms three and four at Hunts Cross Station
Not once did I ask for this. In fact, I have not even mentioned buffers once, and I've advocated for a South Parkway dual terminus instead.
Consequently you don't need to change anything at Liverpool South Parkway station, as the interchange is still there for a through train. Likewise the train operator may prefer to have a train to operate the complete circuit too, it is called making the most of the train stock and staff available and as well as passengers would prefer it too, which is want you want in the first place.
Yeah, you're right. Not only do I want that, I've been literally begging and pleading for it in this thread.
If Gateacre ever gets off the ground, then you could think about going further but unless that happens, then it remains a dream.
That's the point of a PLAN.
If we say "let's get to Gateacre", they can take their time and waste all of the money (on CEOs' yachts) and then cancel halfway through.
If we say "let's finish the whole line, all the way to Aintree, X electrified miles per year" not only do they have a goal to meet but it's spread out over a reasonable time so service can be ran further as the track progresses, and running services can raise further funds.
Saying "it would be hard so don't even think about it" is a perfect recipe to get the broken, battered, destroyed and defiled railways of modern Britain.
Far, far easier to own property on Merseyside than in the South East
I said PRIVATE property, not residential property.
Factories, machines, arable land... Things that extract value from others' labour.
I think this is the typical victim mentality that holds back Merseyside
if Liverpool could get over it
Right, we need to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps. The audacity of someone from Aughton bloody Park to lecture someone who was born on a council estate that
people are only poor because of their mindset. What is this, the 1880's?!
Thanks for your input, for all it was worth...