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I thought I'd do a write up of my bashing activities over the course of the next few weeks. Obviously I'll know if anyone else agrees that this is a good plan by the responses I get (or lack of them....). I've got what is (for me) quite an ambitious programme this summer, so here goes........ Feel free to chip in with comments and yr own experiences.

May 21st. Off to Northern Ireland for the MRSI ‘Twelve Counties’ tour to Tralee on 22nd. Got the no 737 bus from Shipley town centre to LBA for the FlyBe flight to Belfast City Airport. On arrival at LBA it took 25 minutes to get through security due to the sheer volume of hen and stag parties heading off to places presumably better for this purpose than West Yorkshire. The whole place looked like the result of some disastrous cloning experiment where the entire cast of Gavin and Stacey had been reproduced about 10 times and put in the airport.

Flight left on time and was pretty empty. Nice journey with clear views until the Irish Sea coast was crossed at Lytham St Annes. Very overcast in Belfast although arrived bang on time. The station serving the airport (Sydenham) is about a 10 minute walk away, so because the flight was bang on time, with a brisk walk I managed to get a train (09:51, CAF 3013) 30 minutes earlier than the one I'd planned, enabling me to get into Belfast Great Victoria Street station instead of Central for a few extra miles.

Leaving Central I checked the timetable and saw that with a 1 minute leap at Botanic, I could get a DEMU move on the 10:03 to Carrickfergus as far as Yorkgate, allowing me to return to Central on another thumper in time to pick up the 10:28 GVS > Londonderry train at Central instead at 10:40. However, we left Central one down and proceeded at a frustrating 20 mph to Botanic. Thumper 454 was already in the other platform with doors open, so I had basically no chance to get across. Such an early withering did not seem like a good sign. The purpose of taking the Derry train was to go to Coleraine for the Portrush branch thumper, which I had good gen on (got seriously bowled last time I tried this 2 years ago). When I got to GVS a few minutes later I got some gen that there had been signalling problems on the Derry line that morning. This would have the potential to bowl me for the afternoon's 80 class Larne line working if late running on the lengthy single track caused me to miss my 8 minute connection on the return journey from Coleraine. However, there was nothing being mentioned at the station so I took the Derry train at 10:28 anyway. Three Ulsterbus Leyland Tigers were parked up at the adjacent bus depot, but there was no photo op due to not being able to open the windows on NIR’s CAF sets.

Got withered again at Central as GM loco no 111 passed through en route to Adelaide yard with a single ballast wagon while I was sitting in the CAF. No photo op again due to being hermetically sealed in a plastic tube :cry: The third piece of bad news came a few minutes later to the south of Whiteabbey when a 450 class thumper raced past on the 09:57 ex-Larne Harbour. This train is part of the diagram usually worked by the 80 class unit, so it looked bad for later on when I was planning to pick this diagram up when it recommenced at 16:00.

Met some English bashers on the train heading for Derry. They’d never been to Northern Ireland before, and wanted to combine the whole network with as much thumper mileage as possible (preferably 80 class), so I gave them what gen I had (plus a potted history of NIR), and they asked me to text them when I had something better. Their plan was ambitious having started quite late in the day. They also had an out of date Baker’s Bible and were a bit concerned when they saw how the network had changed in the last 20 years! Any signalling problems caused minimal impact as we arrived at Coleraine only 10 minutes late. Bailed onto the hellfire 457 for excellent sound effects on the 13 minute journey to Portrush. Train full of holiday makers, but I had the power car to myself on the return working after just 2 minutes at the resort. Thrash + jointed track = happy thumper veg. Enormous portion of fish and chips at Coleraine, which I attempted to demolish on the platform while listening to the very enjoyable sound of a 4SRKT idling. Another round trip to Portrush saw me back on the platform at Coleraine, waiting for the return CAF set (3021) on the 13:57 to GVS.

There was a huge party of Brownies waiting for this train, as well as a lot of other people. Knowing it was only a 3-car set I was concerned about overcrowding. As it left Coleraine it was indeed very busy, but everyone had a seat. I got talking to a very interesting chap who was a professional cellist and a thoroughly good cove who approved heartily of railway enthusiasm. However, it was by now a very hot day and the coach I was in had a failed aircon unit. The Brownies bailed at Cullybackey, but by this time we couldn’t be bothered to move and things were getting pretty sweaty by the time I bailed at Yorkgate station in Belfast, so was glad of what little breeze there was during the 8 minute wait for the 15:16 to Larne Harbour. As we arrived at Yorkgate I’d seen the 4-car 80 class set with 90 and 93 powering at York Road depot, so was optimistic that the 16:00 ex-Carrickfergus would produce. Got a text to this effect as well, adding to my sense of mounting excitement. 450 class number 459 came into view across the viaduct from Central, and we left on time.

Next problem was food for the following day’s tour. 459 would put me down in Carrickfergus with 21 minutes to spare for the Do-Not-Miss 16:00 departure. Bailed at Clipperstown ¼ mile short of Carrick as this station is slightly closer to the town’s (enormous) branch of Tesco. Ran as fast as I could considering a very hot day and a very heavy coat, and dashed around throwing breadcakes, cheese, chorizo (very New Labour), crisps, orange juice and the all important 13p 2 litre bottle of water into the basket. Then ran like the clappers to the main Carrickfergus station to pick up the 16:00 with 4 minutes to spare. Texted the gen about the 80 class diagram to the track bashers, and got settled into the front power car (93) for a good bellow up to Belfast. Unbelievable din and clag from 93 as we stormed up the fearsome gradient out of Carrick. My Lordz! My NIR gen source was also on the train, so we met up and chewed the fat about how much better life was before ‘the plastics’ in the days when DEMUs ruled the roost on this compact little system.

On arrival in Belfast the train filled up with normals for the 16:42 back to Larne Town. By this stage the train had at least 30 English bashers on board, all over for the tour the next day. I suppose the normals must have been wondering why their regular commuter train was suddenly full of middle aged English blokes with cameras saying things like ‘Hellfire’ and other nonsense. Anyway, hellfire it was as we proceeded apace, particularly beyond Whitehead on jointed track at 60+ mph with both 4SRKTs singing beautifully. At Whitehead it was depressing to see the dilapidated state of ‘preserved’ EE-engined Hunslet Bo-Bo no 102 in the middle of the ‘junk’ section of the RPSI’s premises.

5 minutes’ leg stretch at Larne before an even more hellfire thrash to Belfast on the 17:43 departure, non-stop to Whitehead this time except a brief wait at the loop at Magheramorne to pass 456 on the express 17:06 GVS > Larne Harbour. At Whitehead 454 was in the siding to form the 18:25 to Belfast, while a CAF set was in the loop on the second express working of the day (17:25 off GVS, and not a CAF diagram so I hope nobody got bowled).

My gen-providing friend bailed at Central and I stayed on the train for the 18:50 back to Larne Town. My track bashing associates joined me for the ride, excited because they’d got their lines in despite a minus one Man of Steel move at Adelaide. They were certainly enjoying the twin thumper action when I bailed at Downshire in order to visit a local off-licence for tomorrow’s stash before heading back to Belfast to meet an old friend and have a few pints. Picked up 455 on the 19:36 through train to GVS, and bailed at Botanic to check into the Youth Hostel. Slumming it is OK when it’s only £8 per night, and lo and behold there was the obligatory surly Australian working at the reception! This was always such a feature of Youth Hostelling in my youth that I’d have felt cheated if he hadn’t been there!

After three pints of Guinness I felt dreadful (in the non-basher sense), and sadly had to leave at 11:00, which was disappointing. I put it down to the lack of caffeine all day, and we went and got a cup of tea at a Spar just before it closed. This helped a bit, but what really cleared the pipes out was being copiously sick in the toilet at the Youth Hostel before settling down for a night of broken sleep (sorry folks!).

My ‘phone had been a bit dodgy all day, and kept switching itself off. This was a very considerable problem because it’s also my alarm clock and with a 5:30 start for the tour it was either depend on the ‘phone or not go to sleep! After 5 hours of anxious tossing and turning I woke purely by chance at 5:29, and left the dorm as quietly as I could in order not to disturb the farting, snoring, drunken backpackers who were populating the other bunks.

Off to the Halifax to get some dollar out of the machine, and back to City Hospital station where the tour was picking up instead of Botanic because it doesn’t have barriers and therefore NIR don’t have to provide staff at such a ludicrous time. NIR GM no 112 came into view around the corner, bang on time at 05:59, magnificent and all with headlights blazing, and a minute later we were off.

My regular railtour buddy wasn’t with me this time because he doesn’t like GMs, so I was travelling alone on a tour for the first time, which feels a bit weird. Luckily I ran into the track bashers from the day before and they invited me to join them. They turned out to be excellent company and helped make the day a great success.

An uneventful journey to Dublin (071 clocked at Dundalk on the weedkiller train), where some nervousness was detectable because no Irish Rail big GM 071 class was visible to take the tour forward to Tralee. The only loco to be seen was very dud 201 class no 230, which would have been a most calamitous withering had it set back onto the stock. A rumour was circulating that 112 would work throughout, which was plausible because it has been on long term loan to IR, and therefore has all the necessary warning system gear. This rumour got stronger when we were all told to bail at Connolly, causing speculation about a shunt release to get 112 out and on the front. This was on the whole an unwelcome prospect, but much better than 230 would have been. After about 20 minutes though, 081 came off the Sligo line having come up from the depot at Inchicore, and was placed at the head of the lovely rake of RPSI Mk IIs.

Now sitting in the second coach, we rattled off to the left, taking the Sligo line as far as Glasnevin Junction. Had a bellow while looking down on the Dublin rooftops below, savouring the sight and sound of a big GM hard at work. There were even some people flailing, something I haven’t seen on the main line in Britain for quite a long time. From Glasnevin it was line grice to Islandbridge Junction, the only new bit of the day for me. Head remained out right through to Inchicore, where there were 3 small GMs sitting near the main line.

An enjoyable if uneventful journey as far as Mallow, punctuated by the odd kip, and the first can of beer after Thurles. 071 no 088 was at Mallow on an engineers’ train, and after a short stop at the station, we set off onto the single tracked Tralee branch. This section becomes utterly gorgeous scenically after about Rathmore, so we settled down to drink in the views as far as Killarney. After the bizarre reversal out of the station into the headshunt, we took the steeply graded Tralee line with 081 at full pelt. This was absolutely hellfire, and I kept my head out nearly all the way to the terminus. Various odious Irish Rail railcars were encountered along the way, but in the interest of good taste and public decency I won’t talk about them here, except to say that the incoming railcar on the 13:30 Mallow > Tralee was over half an hour late, so after 20 minutes longer than the scheduled hour at Tralee (not much going on in the town TBH) we’re off again. Sitting near the back this time so less to hear, but once we got beyond Killarney Junction (only 5 minutes late by now) and back on the main line the driver really opened 081 up. Great to be on a tour with a powerful engine on a real main line, so that good fast running could be enjoyed. The weather was very conducive to bellowing, so by the time I sat down again after Limerick Junction my hair was full of clag and doing a passable imitation of the Jedward look! A stop in the middle of nowhere was a bit alarming as we started to think the loco had failed, but it was to allow a fresh crew to be put down by a Dublin > Cork passenger working.

Veg'd all the way back to Dublin, except for more heads-out from Islandbridge Junction into Connolly, where my travelling companions bailed. An hour’s fester during which time I bought some more beer for the northbound run to Belfast . After 112 had backed onto the stock (me near the front again!), 071 no 086 unexpectedly appeared and ran into the adjacent platform, giving the very unusual sight nowadays of three of these magnificent GMs in Connolly station at once, and providing an awesome photo op as she passed 112 on the adjacent track. 21:20 and we’re off, bang on time, on what turned out to be the most hellfire part of the day. Past Fairview depot and she’s off. Clag flying everywhere and the sound effects magnified by the north Dublin cuttings; this loco was on fire! Too good to be true maybe as the train ground to a halt beyond Skerries, and I stuck my head out to realise that the loco was silent with all headlights off. Not good. After a few minutes the driver started her up again and we were off. Just over the border the same thing happened again near Meigh. This is a pretty remote spot and not a good place to have a tour caped. Again the loco was restarted, and by the time it shut down for a third time just short of Lisburn, I was consoling myself with the thought that if push came to shove, I could at least walk back to Belfast from there and not miss my flight the next day!

Back at City Hospital only 5 minutes down and I waved goodbye to 112 that had been such an entertaining companion for the last 2 and a bit hours. Strolled back to the Youth Hostel, hit the scratcher and didn’t emerge again until I’d had 9 hours of blissful sleep.

Thanks to all who organised and participated in this great tour, particularly those in coach number 300, who made a lone traveller feel welcome. It was my first diesel tour in Ireland, but you can be sure I’ll be back.
 
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Very interesting account 4SRKT, glad you enjoyed it.

Landed in from Venice that afternoon and it was a dash to Heuston to catch the 16:00 Cork as far as Limerick Junction with 219 where I was to pick the tour up. Tours in Ireland are notorious for not sticking to the script, particularly on return runs. However I was satisfied that with the tour having an 18:00-18:21 booked stop for a driver change that this would not be a risky move.

Very nearly got bowled out in a few heart stopping moments. As we were approaching the Junction at 17:40, got a text to say that the tour had just passed Charleville about five minutes ago, great! Should be here in fifteen minutes.

It was 18:10 and no sign of the tour. Where the hell was it, had it jacked? Conveniently my battery went kapoot so couldn't phone the lads to see where they were. Matters were made worse when the Bert at the station was announcing the next train to stop at the platform was for Heuston and in between. I had well and truly been bowled. In the final nail of the coffin, there was no driver waiting to take the tour forward, which was supposed to be the purpose of the stop.

Eventually at 18:20, 081 appeared in the distance, I looked at the centre road and the light was red. Hope! Then Bert comes on and says that the next train is in fact not for public use. Bingo! It wasn't a wasted trip, 081 duly took its train into the platform but it practically only stopped for 30 seconds, time for one passenger to jump off and me to jump on.

I subsequently discovered that the person who got off was from Cork and had mentioned to the District Traction Executive (aka inspector) that they had to alight at the Junction in order to get back to Cork, and had been promised the train was meant to be stopping there. Only through agreement with Connolly central control was the train routed into the platform, otherwise it would have got the road straight through.

I also found out - and you have mentioned it above - that the driver change took place in the middle of nowhere somewhere between Charleville and the Junction. Ironically, the driver of my 16:00 Cork service was the guy who took the tour back.

Typical Irish thing stopping in the middle of nowhere on a mainline to change drivers...
 
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Ah! I saw someone getting on at the Junction. A youngish chap (mid-20s?) wearing shorts. Was this you?

Were you not tempted to get 112 north to Drogheda, from where you could have got the 22:05 DMU back? You could have had another heart stopping moment as it appeared to fail near Skerries. Would have been worth it for the din and clag from Fairview right through to Donabate before the noise [don]abated (geddit!) a bit.
 

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Was a great day alright I'm glad to have such scenic lines as the Kerry rd and other lines in and around Cork available at my disposal. Great to finally get something decent on the Kerry Rd, second loco movement of the week even though there hasn't been any for the past few months! One of the best tours I've been on and I only got on in Mallow and off at the Jctn. Driver really gave it a run, one of the top 3 runs I've ever had with an 071, espec between mallow and Banteer was like a bat out of hell.

Yes Drimnagh Rd typical Irish thing to change in on the mainline. Used to happen quite alot when the cement used to run out of Cork driver would always swap off his cement at Knocklong (where we did) and run into Cork with the passenger. Yes Drimnagh rd when I was told that it would be happening down in Killarney I was starting to brick my load but ended up okay and I got home and you got to Belfast! All worked out.
 

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Great Report . I wish i knew more about irish railways . Ive only done Belfast > Bangor . Was your Hostel the Linen house Hostel?
 

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Great Report . I wish i knew more about irish railways . Ive only done Belfast > Bangor . Was your Hostel the Linen house Hostel?

Thx!

Hostel was the one in Donegall Road, chosen for its proximity to a station where the tour was picking up (2 mins walk away).
 
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Meant to return to this thread last week...

Anyway, yep must have been me you seen at The Junction, as was the only one who boarded, but as for the shorts.... Nope, definitly not mate, haven't got the legs for them.

I was going to suggest maybe it was the Guinness goggles but then again the bar was shut due to the ridiculous politics and bizzare jealousy that the MRSI demonstrated on the day so it couldn't have been. Well, it will certainly come back to haunt them next year if they ever go looking to hire the RPSI's coaches again! But I wouldn't be too worried about that, as the RPSI are well capable of organising their own diesel tours, having got a taste as to how well they sell!

A lot of people - me included - were very annoyed at this, not from a drinking point of view but because we had to go to the likes of Tesco's when we could have been supporting the RPSI by buying booze on board. The RPSI had ordered a bucket load of drink, based on the typical demand from previous railtours, and were told last minute by the MRSI that there was to be no alcohol sold, all because they didn't want the RPSI to benefit in any way.

Now this would be fine in the UK, lets say for example Pathfinder not wanting Riviera (a commercial company) to benefit, but remember with the RPSI been a preservation group, and since the demise of Irish Rails mk3s, they are the only people capable of providing main line registered loco hauled stock for a railtour. Taking this into account, and with the railfan scene been so small in Ireland, all groups must support each other. A lot of revenue was lost that day which will ultimately affect the ability to keep main line tours alive!

Not a fan of the 111s, which is why I flagged 112, plus was wrecked and cashless after the cruise that I got back from that morning. I know a 111 is technically an 071, but since I never bashed them when I was younger I've no real interest in them.
 
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I agree about the pathetic nature of the booze dispute. This really does seem most petty, and not conducive to harmony within the very small scene. The RPSI is the granddaddy of the Irish scene, and it's probably best not to annoy them unless there's no alternative. Having run out of beer myself on the return trip somewhere near Portlaoise, I would have been a very willing contributor to the RPSI coffers in this regard.
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June 3rd. Business trip to my employer’s office in Surrey, conveniently located very close to Byfleet & New Haw station. If using the car I wouldn’t do this sort of distance there and back in a day, so was able to justify the horrendous cost of using the train because it’s cheaper than the fuel plus overnight hotel expenses I would have incurred otherwise.

Having carefully arranged the meeting time some weeks earlier around the Grand Central timetable, I set off by road on Wednesday evening to stay over with my parents in York. It’s half term so I took my boys over to stay with them for a bit, killing two birds with one stone.

I’m aware that GC are down to just 4 Valenta-engined power cars, and that they’ve been experiencing problems with reliability over the past couple of weeks. Given that I’ve been viewing this as my last chance ever to get any Valenta action, particularly on the extra special south of York section, I’d been getting a little jumpy over the last few days. A friend of mine has been repeatedly bowled on GC over the last couple of months, having on one occasion had to resort to an 8 hour fester at York to get the desired Valentas, so this had not helped my anxiety.

Having checked the last few days’ gen on the Grand Central Yahoo Group, I have to say it didn’t look like GC would produce in both directions. The best I could hope for was one direction only. The gen seemed to imply that the southbound 08:20 departure off York was unlikely to produce, so I went to sleep on Wednesday night not holding out much hope. Therefore I was not really suffering much from what I have come to call the ‘GC Jitters’ as I was standing on York station on Thursday morning, and not bitterly disappointed to see a long, black plastic tube snaking its way into platform 5 a few minutes early.

A prompt departure and continued all the way to London in good time. I’m not going to tell you what it was like. It was a 180. If you want to know what it was like go and ride on one yourself: I’m not going to waste my time writing about it on here. Anyway, the only positive thing to come out of this was that the train was 5 minutes early at the Cross (10:26 instead of 10:31). This had two distinct advantages: (i) that I had wasted 5 minutes less of my life on a 180, and (ii) with a quick dash I was able to get across to St Pancras International for the 10:34 to Sutton via Wimbledon (luckily I had bought a 4 zone Travelcard from the guard chappie on the 180). This move had three distinct advantages: (i) station grice at SPI, (ii) no messing about on tubes to get to Waterloo (always more interesting to ride on the surface IMHO), and (iii) got line grice from Streatham to Wimbledon :). A 319 did the honours and it was nice to ride in something familiar churned out of York in my youth. At Wimbledon I went out of the barrier to buy a return to Byfleet & New Haw. Also got the new timetable with unbelievably small type (still want an extra quid for it though I see, the saucy sods), and some lunch from Greggs. More York built ‘excitement’ as an 8 car 455 rolled in for the sedate run to Byfleet. I took a couple of shots of the 455. If in my youth I had received a visit from my future self and I had told me that one day I would have been taking photos of 455s and not considering it ludicrous behaviour, I would have simply refused to believe it.

After the meeting I caught the 15:40 back to Waterloo. Cutting it finer than I would have liked for the 16:50 GC back to York, given that I was really in the last chance saloon Valenta-wise, but the meeting dragged on just too long for me to be able to make the 15:10 :( Anyway, hats off to South West Trains for a flawless journey as far as Vauxhall (another 455) where I bailed to take the Victoria Line onwards. Slight withering as I walked onto the northbound platform to see the doors closing on a set of 1967 stock, and having to wait a whole minute before some miniature plastic tube with red and blue bits stuck all over it came crashing into the station. Maybe it was just the colour scheme, but this thing really did look more like a tube of toothpaste than any train I’ve ever seen. The GC Jitters were getting serious now: I was pretty tired, but quite prepared to experience the uncertain wait for the 19:18 should I get bowled for the 16:50. Into the Cross at 16:35 courtesy of the ‘Colgate Express’, but goodness me, what a long walk! The layout seems totally different from the last time I was in Kings Cross tube station some years ago, but I’m pretty sure it was never that far from the Victoria Line to the concourse back in the day. Five minutes later and I reckon having walked half way from Euston, I came up into the concourse at a most unfamiliar angle. Got my bearings and started looking about. An MTU engined EC HST was lurking almost silently, and a couple of DVTs were hanging about the buffers. Where was the 16:50? Then, out of the corner of my eye I clocked the unmistakable profile of a Mk III coach in platform 8. The light was all wrong so couldn’t see properly at first, but with a bit of squinting I could make out the Grand Central logo. Valentas! It had all paid off! Got a quick snap and got on board, only to find that the bashers’ seats were being occupied by some oblivious normals. There should be a sign on these seats like for disabled people saying, ‘please give up this seat if a Valenta basher needs it’. It’d be in their interest really, not to have bashers walking past all the time en route to the vestibule. 16:50 and we’re off on the button. Heads out for the thrashfest through the tunnels. God, this was good, and worth waiting for. Given that I’d sort of known I’d only get Valentas in one direction, I was glad it was this way. Unfortunately got withered by the young guard lady just north of Copenhagen Tunnel, who invited me to ‘take my seat’. What cheek! I wasn’t even leaning out, and I’m sure there is no rule against standing in the vestibule. Indeed, if the train were full they’d only be too glad for me to stand there and free up a seat for someone else.

Spent most of the rest of the journey enjoying the great comfort of GC’s luxuriant Mk III second class saloon. The leg room! Whilst London > York is undoubtedly the classic route to enjoy Valenta thrash, the advantage of York > Sunderland with GC (apart from the price) is that you get a lot more start ups. Anyway, it’d be churlish to complain about this, and all too soon we were approaching Doncaster at speed. I decided to time my (probably) last ever Valenta HST run from Doncaster to York, probably the section I’ve had HSTs on more than any other. We were going ton up and accelerating as we flew through the centre roads. I was back in the vestibule by this time, prepared to argue with the guard about the non-illegality of standing there if necessary (she did turn up again about half way to York, but didn’t say anything to me :)). We were really flying, and thundered past Hambleton South Junction in exactly 10 minutes. 14 mins and 6 seconds saw us at Colton; this was going to be a very fast run indeed. Photographers on the bridge just south of the junction were in double figures as we flew past, and no wonder. Who wouldn’t want to get a shot of this great and iconic train flying across the countryside on a beautiful summery evening? Still going like the hammers at Chaloner’s Whin, but the brakes were applied soon afterwards. Disaster! Checked at the signal just south of the footbridge known locally as the Dicky Bridge (just south of Holgate Junction). Came to a stand at 18 mins and 18 seconds, to allow a dullsville 185 to get out of the way on the (late running) 18:40 departure to Liverpool. Eventually came to a stand on platform 11 22 minutes and 28 seconds after passing Donny. A bit of a locofest going on at York, as 60010 was waiting at Holgate Junction on a southbound freight, and a shed was stabled in the siding adjacent to platform 11. As I was rushing from the back of the tram after shooting 43123 to get 43067 at the front, a very claggy 47739 accelerated through platform 9 with 2 GUVs on. How low have we fallen? That a duff is now a welcome sight? Come to that, if we can refer back to the theme of me visiting my younger self, had I told that youth that one day he would frantically be chasing HSTs around before it was too late, he would have shaken his head, laughed, and probably flicked the Vs at me!

Anyway, this was the final act as far as I was concerned. Anything else will just be an extra bonus. 43067 loosed a cloud of clag into the warm evening air and pulled noisily off toward Sunderland. What sights, sounds and smells had been enjoyed! As the train was leaving I noticed the young guard lady leaning right out of the window, her ample bosom resting pleasantly and comfortably-looking on top of the droplight! Was she a rather cheeky disobeyer of her own rules? Possibly the scales had just fallen from her eyes as she realised that the magic Valenta sound would soon pass into history, and that she was almost uniquely placed to maximise her enjoyment of it. It had been a great run, following a day of anticipation, and a fitting end to my long experience of a truly classic train, stretching across its entire lifespan. I would say R.I.P., but peace is not something those of us who’ve been up close and personal with a Valenta under load want to experience.
 
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Brilliant post there, thanks for the heads-up on the GC thread. Couldn't help but smile when reading the bits about the idea of your younger self flicking the Vs at you for bashing HSTs! Huge Cheshire cat grin on my face when reading about the thrash through Gasworks Tunnel, I pictured quite happily the sight, sound and smell of that.

Inspired I be to do the same sort of write-up for my next trip on a Valenta-ised HST. Did one for my last one in January, shall have to dig out that 2-day marathon report and shove it on the forum.

Glad to hear you enjoyed the experience. Oh, and if it makes any difference, I found myself shocked at the fact I snapped some 455s last time I was in London too. But I'm curious, why the 4-zone travelcard and return to Byfleet on top? Surely cheaper to get a 6-zone travelcard?
 

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Brilliant post there, thanks for the heads-up on the GC thread. Couldn't help but smile when reading the bits about the idea of your younger self flicking the Vs at you for bashing HSTs! Huge Cheshire cat grin on my face when reading about the thrash through Gasworks Tunnel, I pictured quite happily the sight, sound and smell of that.

Inspired I be to do the same sort of write-up for my next trip on a Valenta-ised HST. Did one for my last one in January, shall have to dig out that 2-day marathon report and shove it on the forum.

Glad to hear you enjoyed the experience. Oh, and if it makes any difference, I found myself shocked at the fact I snapped some 455s last time I was in London too. But I'm curious, why the 4-zone travelcard and return to Byfleet on top? Surely cheaper to get a 6-zone travelcard?


Thanks for that! I enjoy writing this sort of stuff, and will hopefully be reviewing the diesel gala at Keighley this weekend (if I can remember any of it.........)

Byfleet outside the zones (isn't it?).
 

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That thought did occur to me as I made the post, but I'm not 100% sure where it is in relation to the zones. Not that it matters now anyway.

Just read the rest of the thread, thoroughly enjoyed the tales from Ireland as I've only ever cranked over there once, in the RoI at that. Not seeing owt worth going for down there now, although I'd love to do the 450 and 80 classes in NI. But they'll be gone before I can find the ching to get to Belfast, so I'll settle with what's left on these shores instead.

Looking forward to the next instalment :D
 

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That thought did occur to me as I made the post, but I'm not 100% sure where it is in relation to the zones. Not that it matters now anyway.

Just read the rest of the thread, thoroughly enjoyed the tales from Ireland as I've only ever cranked over there once, in the RoI at that. Not seeing owt worth going for down there now, although I'd love to do the 450 and 80 classes in NI. But they'll be gone before I can find the ching to get to Belfast, so I'll settle with what's left on these shores instead.

Looking forward to the next instalment :D


It might not be as dear as you imagine. I'm going to be bashing in NI again in the summer, with minimal expenditure. We're taking the family holiday in NI, then I'm bringing the family down to Dublin in the car to leave them there with the wife's parents for a bit. Hot footing it back to Belfast on the Enterprise that evening in order to take the Steam Enterprise the following day back to Dublin and back North again. Will be on the last [diesel] Enterprise back to Dublin on the Sunday evening. After this point it turns into a proper and reasonably priced crankfest.

Using a Sail Rail £28.50 ticket from Dublin to Shipley, I'm over on the night boat to Holyhead. An awful fester before the 57 hauled train as far as Llandudno Junction. Then a big round trip by bus, Welsh Highland, Ffestiniog and Conwy Valley line, before resuming the Sail Rail at the Junction. A few days at work before taking a £40 Sail Rail to Belfast this time, overnight using the teatime S&C departure from Leeds to Carlisle, then changing at Kilmarnock and Stranraer. Arriving in Belfast at 06:30 means I've time to get a £15 I-Link day ticket and comfortably cover the whole network, including a number of additional filling in thumper moves, before getting the 20:10 Enterprise to Dublin where I'll retrieve the family and we'll drive home.

A version of this, excluding the steam stuff, and possibly concentrating on thumpers rather than mileage in NI, could be done for the price of two Sail Rails and an I-Link, plus an NIR advance single from Newry to Dublin, total about £95. No accomodation needed 'cos you're on boats at night :) Alternatively the Belfast Youth Hostel costs £8 a night and is a couple of minutes from Botanic station.

Given that there's bugger all left on these shores now, I urge anyone who can scrape together the dosh to head to NIR for the thumpers before they're gone too (a couple more years at most). You'll love it.
 
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Ill start mine off with last Sat 29th may, after rejecting the 37s to Pwhelli (no cash for taxi home) I went for the sweet sound of a 16CSVT in the form of 50044 with my mate, Perfect weather for a bash with cold tempratures and wet rails as we left Kidderminster we got a fair bit of smoke as expected with all locos when cold but it did warm my face up (gotta love the air from the exhaust on your face on a cold day :lol:) got some excellent thrash from midi

After we got back to Kidderminster I got a cabride on the run round great loco for my first cabride the rest of the day was self explanitry with the usual thrash and it warmed up a little bit

After this I went out for 906 on the 31st, I dont know what it was but I found myself getting bored with 37s just latley and I almost nodded off a few times, 37906 wasnt all that impressive second time round nor was it as impressive as the 50 2 days before, needless to say it was still a top day out with some top thrash and it was nice to catch up with the others i hadnt seen for sometime.

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50044: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1It953mthYI
37906: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUhfzEfuTxg
 

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Given that there's bugger all left on these shores now, I urge anyone who can scrape together the dosh to head to NIR for the thumpers before they're gone too (a couple more years at most). You'll love it.

Have snipped the rest off, but sounds like a funky itiniery there. I like the idea of doing the whole network in one day, might as well scoop some track in whilst there too. Especially as it's only £15 for the day!

There is indeed bugger all left on these shores, even going to just see tours is getting to become pointless as it's mostly the same stuff going out all the time. Spitfire do some decent tours, yes, but the associated ching when you're all the way down south isn't helpful. Even the upcoming Mazey Day tour means having to overnight it in Bristol (as with seemingly every other tour down this way) to ensure a tight connection doesn't turn into a minus and a waste of £60!

What keeps me on these shores mainly though, aside from a lack of serious dosh and a passport, are the HSTs. They are and always will be my class, so until they're gone I'm more than happy to stay over here. Although once GC go totally MTU in the next few months, then I will have the opportunity to try and get some funds saved towards a Thumper bash. Might have to wait until next year though.

Those SailRail tickets sound excellent value, would still buy one for the Belfast route just to get some rail mileage in on these shores. That and I've already done the Holyhead to Dublin Ferryport sailing :lol:

Point is, I shall have to try and bear it all in mind for next year, by when I should have some birthday and Christmas money to put into a trip to Ireland. Bonus for me is that I have a sister who lives in Dublin, which will probably come in handy :) Thanks for the tips 4SRKT!
 

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Have snipped the rest off, but sounds like a funky itiniery there. I like the idea of doing the whole network in one day, might as well scoop some track in whilst there too. Especially as it's only £15 for the day!

There is indeed bugger all left on these shores, even going to just see tours is getting to become pointless as it's mostly the same stuff going out all the time. Spitfire do some decent tours, yes, but the associated ching when you're all the way down south isn't helpful. Even the upcoming Mazey Day tour means having to overnight it in Bristol (as with seemingly every other tour down this way) to ensure a tight connection doesn't turn into a minus and a waste of £60!

What keeps me on these shores mainly though, aside from a lack of serious dosh and a passport, are the HSTs. They are and always will be my class, so until they're gone I'm more than happy to stay over here. Although once GC go totally MTU in the next few months, then I will have the opportunity to try and get some funds saved towards a Thumper bash. Might have to wait until next year though.

Those SailRail tickets sound excellent value, would still buy one for the Belfast route just to get some rail mileage in on these shores. That and I've already done the Holyhead to Dublin Ferryport sailing :lol:

Point is, I shall have to try and bear it all in mind for next year, by when I should have some birthday and Christmas money to put into a trip to Ireland. Bonus for me is that I have a sister who lives in Dublin, which will probably come in handy :) Thanks for the tips 4SRKT!

The sister in Dublin will indeed be handy, as without it you have to leave Belfast on the 16:10 to Dublin to ensure you get on the night boat, which makes doing NIR in a day impossible (although you could still get a good day thumping on the Larne line). You could of course go both directions via Belfast > Stranraer.

Coming back from Dublin allows you to take the 57 from Holyhead, if you're prepared for a long fester. The fester is 4 hours even if you don't get the 57 though, so an extra hour probably won't be too much [additional] hassle. If you're South West based I imagine that a reasonable route would be on the 57 all the way to Newport :) Don't forget these Sail Rail tickets are open in the sense that you're not tied to individual trains or even routes.
 

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Given that there's bugger all left on these shores now, I urge anyone who can scrape together the dosh to head to NIR for the thumpers before they're gone too (a couple more years at most). You'll love it.

Tempted by it myself, any other recomendations for stuff to red pen over there?
 

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Tempted by it myself, any other recomendations for stuff to red pen over there?


You could try to tie it up with an RPSI main line steam tour if that floats your boat. They're astonishingly good value: last year's Steam Enterprise was £25 return from Whitehead to Dublin (about a 260 mile round trip). Southbound was behind 130 year old 0-6-0 no 186, and took almost 4 hours to reach Dublin. It really had to work on some very severe gradients in South Armagh. Return was with big LMS 2-6-4T no 4 which just ate up the miles. Basically they use it to swap their Dublin based loco over (currently no 4) and get it back to Whitehead for a bit. It's going to be the same agenda this year on 1st August :)

Otherwise there's the Portrush Flyer three Saturdays this summer, which will all be with no 4, although they won't be operating beyond Coleraine due to loco hauled trains being banned beyond there until the (ancient) track's replaced. The last 6 miles will be in a NIR railcar, hopefully a DEMU.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SGPmZqmCfw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju7SstlGbkc&feature=related
 
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The sister in Dublin will indeed be handy, as without it you have to leave Belfast on the 16:10 to Dublin to ensure you get on the night boat, which makes doing NIR in a day impossible (although you could still get a good day thumping on the Larne line). You could of course go both directions via Belfast > Stranraer.

Coming back from Dublin allows you to take the 57 from Holyhead, if you're prepared for a long fester. The fester is 4 hours even if you don't get the 57 though, so an extra hour probably won't be too much [additional] hassle. If you're South West based I imagine that a reasonable route would be on the 57 all the way to Newport :) Don't forget these Sail Rail tickets are open in the sense that you're not tied to individual trains or even routes.

Good point on being able to take the 57 all the way to Newport, although I'd also be tempted with some sort of leap to Crewe, then Birmingham and swap into an HST to Bristol. Gotta get the miles in on the XC power cars when the opportunity arises :lol:

Going both ways via Stranraer would probably be what I'd do anyway really, the ching isn't much different (indeed that route comes with Y-P 'special fares' I believe, so even better), so extra mileage across the country for not much extra. Plus it's a part of the country I rarely go to, North Wales has been seen too much!

Thanks for the help with this one, although it's severely doubtful I'll be able to act on it until next year, when I'll probably end up asking for the same help again :lol:
 

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Good point on being able to take the 57 all the way to Newport, although I'd also be tempted with some sort of leap to Crewe, then Birmingham and swap into an HST to Bristol. Gotta get the miles in on the XC power cars when the opportunity arises :lol:

Going both ways via Stranraer would probably be what I'd do anyway really, the ching isn't much different (indeed that route comes with Y-P 'special fares' I believe, so even better), so extra mileage across the country for not much extra. Plus it's a part of the country I rarely go to, North Wales has been seen too much!

Thanks for the help with this one, although it's severely doubtful I'll be able to act on it until next year, when I'll probably end up asking for the same help again :lol:

Good point on the Belfast Sail Rail allowing YP railcard discounts; not something I'd have thought of.

If you go both ways via the same route you can buy a return ticket. Not cheaper than 2 singles, but it is open not only in the route and train sense, but is valid for a month, with breaks allowed. Given that the Sail Rail ticket is the same price from large parts of GB, you could buy your return from (say) Exeter, for probably the same price as Bristol. This would then give you an unused single portion from Bristol to Exeter that could be used at any time in the next month, which may be handy for HST bashing if MTUs really are your bag.
 
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