Matt Taylor
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Yes, just seen that elsewhere. The reason for my tardiness is that I won't be signing them and I've been off work for a few weeks!
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swt_passenger
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No it doesn't. That's why both Desiro fleets have been going through Eastleigh works for their overhauls for the last few years.
The 158/9s have also been to Bournemouth for certain work if capacity hasn't been available at Salisbury, it just depends on what they decide at the time.
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Have the 707's been considered for South Eastern so commuters finally get some stock with Air Con?
swt_passenger
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The truth is no-one has a clue, but if you read the 707 thread the pros and cons do get discussed. The basic problem is that they do nothing about providing 12 car capability in 'as delivered' condition...
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True but could run where only 8 can at the moment e.g Orp-Vic or Dartford -Vic.
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Avengers Assemble!
Will any of the train crew look like this then?
(Sorry IanXC)
For those of us of a certain age, "New Avengers" brings memories of Joanna Lumley and co rather than that film. But maybe she's more akin to the 455s - been around a while but still popular with the older generation
- don't think I'd better push the analogy any further though :roll:theageofthetra
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For those of us of a certain age, "New Avengers" brings memories of Joanna Lumley and co rather than that film. But maybe she's more akin to the 455s - been around a while but still popular with the older generation
I just think of a ***** Chrysler car of the 70's!
For those of us of a certain age, "New Avengers" brings memories of Joanna Lumley and co rather than that film. But maybe she's more akin to the 455s - been around a while but still popular with the older generation
By jove! That's cheered me up at lunchtime!
According to Paul Clifton, SWT drivers have been balloted for industrial action, this is the first I've heard about it. Does anyone know what the dispute is about? Something to do with new signalling arrangements at Waterloo? Is it the DVD packs ASLEF are unhappy with?
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Have we?
That's what I thought!!
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Seen something on the notice wall, but nothing official.
urpert
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You can't get 10 coaches into most of the stations on those routes though.
southern442
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Is that why the 376's never do Victoria diagrams?
urpert
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Yep. I've known it to happen once since the 376s appeared.
southern442
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Seems like the 395's have been there more often than 376's!
Paul180
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It must be true it was on the local BBC News this evening but I can't find anything online!
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As 2 units / 10 cars?
urpert
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No, sorry, it was just a single 376 standing in for (I expect) a 6-car Networker formation. This would have been a morning peak in around 2004-5. Sadly o didn't get a picture of it at West Dulwich...
theironroad
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There is a dispute and drivers are being balloted. Closing date 3 July I think.
Suraggu
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By all accounts its to do with Network Rail repositioning signals at Waterloo and nothing to do with SWT.
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Perhaps this thread in the signal box forum is relevant. It might mean something to someone. To do with positioning of co-acting starter signals.
http://forum.signalbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7942
So it isn't really a 'new franchise' subject, but very much about remodelling...
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Didn't think you could call strike action against third party actions, only against your employer???
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ASLEF want assurances that only 8 car units will use 8 and 9 because of the location of the main aspect and co acting.
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Does SWTs actually have any say as to what trains use what platform? Wouldn't it be the signallers who decide?
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Trains are booked in the timetable based on how many coaches that the platform can take. The signallers then work to the timetable (if the job's stuffed, the signallers have the platform length guide in front of them so they can decide what goes where)
(http://www.aslefwaterloonineelmsbranch.org.uk/useful.php)
Especially in the peak, having two platforms which can only take 8 will be astronomically disruptive, especially going into the future with Aventras.
I suspect there's more to the story that we don't know
theironroad
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Except for the small matter that it is swt that employ the drivers who have to use the signals.
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I was having a quick look at RTT at what was using 8 it seemed to vary a lot as to what services used 8, do 8 and 9 have any particular services "assigned" to them normally?
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