Northern issue - train becoming uncoupled near Hull

[Mollman]

Apologies if covered elsewhere but does anyone have further details on an issue in the Hull area? Northern journey check has a number of services being disrupted for the same reason as below

10:56 Bridlington to York due 12:48 will be started from Hull.
It will no longer call at Bridlington, Nafferton, Driffield, Hutton Cranswick, Beverley and Cottingham.
This is due to a coach becoming uncoupled on a train.

10:57 Sheffield to Scarborough due 13:43 has been previously delayed, has been further delayed at Meadowhall and is now 12 minutes late.
This is due to a coach becoming uncoupled on a train earlier today.

Thanks

 

[Nippy]

There is a divided freight train near Ferriby.

 

[Horizon22]

Perhaps it is related to a freight train in the area?

 

[CarrotPie]

Apparently it's been fixed now: https://twitter.com/nationalrailenq/status/1772927926016552962

#Ferriby - The broken down freight train is now on the move between Brough and Hull, allowing the lines to be reopened between these stations.

ℹ️ Although trains can now run again, it may take some time to get services running back to the normal advertised timetable.

 

[skyhigh]

A freight train was reported to have divided.

 

[Geezertronic]

Apparently it's been fixed now: https://twitter.com/nationalrailenq/status/1772927926016552962

Are they being economical with the truth saying a Broken Down train, rather than a divided train? Suppose it is better for the public

 

[43066]

Are they being economical with the truth saying a Broken Down train, rather than a divided train? Suppose it is better for the public

Probably more the usual attempt to say something accurate, yet also understandable for Joe Public. After all, if it’s divided, it’s certainly also broken down!

 

[Mollman]

Thanks all for the answer

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Presumably this particular "mishap" didn't only affect Northern services?

 

[High Dyke]

Presumably this particular "mishap" didn't only affect Northern services?

I think there were some delays for Hull Trains as well.

 

[norbitonflyer]

There is a divided freight train near Ferriby.

Then why say a "coach" has become uncoupled?

 

[swt_passenger]

Then why say a "coach" has become uncoupled?

Probably because the information operators select from a menu of possible incidents, and that’s the first option they come too. But you’re right, the thread title and initially quoted info will always make it look as if a passenger train problem for Northern.

 

[68001]

train involved was 6D94 masborough-hull heddon road sidings this apparently is the 3rd time the train has divided
in the same area

 

[WAB]

Probably because the information operators select from a menu of possible incidents, and that’s the first option they come too. But you’re right, the thread title and initially quoted info will always make it look as if a passenger train problem for Northern.

I don't think there is a DARWIN delay code for anything other than coaches being decoupled?

 

[swt_passenger]

I don't think there is a DARWIN delay code for anything other than coaches being decoupled?

That’s the sort of thing I was thinking of, I think it’s been discussed here before that certain obvious events aren’t covered that well.

 

[Deepgreen]

Are they being economical with the truth saying a Broken Down train, rather than a divided train? Suppose it is better for the public

It's more ridiculous to call it a "coach", which strongly implies a passenger train. Why on earth not put 'a wagon from a freight train'? How hard would it be to add the code to the options? It would be more accurate and far less alarming for passengers! The railway's once-great information reputation continues to slide.

 

[Nippy]

Then why say a "coach" has become uncoupled?

I don’t know. It wasn’t me on Twitter.

 

[JD2168]

train involved was 6D94 masborough-hull heddon road sidings this apparently is the 3rd time the train has divided
in the same area

This sounds a bit concerning if it is the 3rd time it has divided in the same area, looks like it needs investigating to come up with solution to this.

 

[WAB]

It's more ridiculous to call it a "coach", which strongly implies a passenger train. Why on earth not put 'a wagon from a freight train'? How hard would it be to add the code to the options? It would be more accurate and far less alarming for passengers! The railway's once-great information reputation continues to slide.

Because it requires negotiation and someone to care (as well as the need to update PIS announcements etc.). I understand that the 'delayed due to congestion' only came about because the TOCs kept ascribing any delays from congestion to 'delayed by late-running freight train' and the FOCs were getting fed up.

 

[Lemmy282]

Apparently after the first two incidents it was determined there was a dip in the track and Network Rail put a temporary speed restriction on, and everything was okay. That restriction has been removed, and lo and behold another divided train.

 

[philthetube]

Probably more the usual attempt to say something accurate, yet also understandable for Joe Public. After all, if it’s divided, it’s certainly also broken down!

certainly broken into 2 halves.

 

[Dr Hoo]

certainly broken into 2 halves.

Broken ‘up’ rather than broken ‘down’ surely?

 

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