Northern: The Great Unit Cascade

[geoffk]

Thanks for updating me , when did 477 and 476 come down?

Release of more 170s could be delayed by the problems with the class 385 windscreens, which may result in them being blacked by ASLEF if a solution is not found.

 

[507021]

A helpful list. Did a 153 actually leave in April 2017 and, if so, where to? I assume London Midland/West Midlands Trains for the new Kenilworth service (not yet started!)

When it does move, it's to East Midlands Trains for the Barton Line, which is transferring to the East Midlands franchise.

 

[_toommm_]

Currently an ex. ScotRail 158 stabled on one of the Slows at Sheffield along with the other stabled stock at Sheffield on a Sunday. Didn't quite catch the end number (eyesight is pretty rubbish) but believe it was a 158/8

 

[507021]

Currently an ex. ScotRail 158 stabled on one of the Slows at Sheffield along with the other stabled stock at Sheffield on a Sunday. Didn't quite catch the end number (eyesight is pretty rubbish) but believe it was a 158/8

158871 according to a post on Facebook.

 

[_toommm_]

158871 according to a post on Facebook.

Sounds about right. Thank you

 

[PHILIPE]

Release of more 170s could be delayed by the problems with the class 385 windscreens, which may result in them being blacked by ASLEF if a solution is not found.

Difficult to retain the 170s if the lease has finished. If it's end of lease then they have to go

 

[507021]

Sounds about right. Thank you

No problem.

 

[stu99]

Difficult to retain the 170s if the lease has finished. If it's end of lease then they have to go

Could be leased to Northern and then subleased back to Scotrail for a short while, which wouldn't be too good for Northerns stock, but then scotrail would be even shorter if they did go before a solution was found.

 

[xotGD]

This morning I viewed a 156 in passenger service at Leeds. I think it was 2E33 0612 Manchester Victoria to Leeds. 156429 if I remember right.

170477 still at Holbeck.

 

[175001]

156 now booked on the 0612 Man Vic to Leeds for traction training at Holbeck in the day.

It returns ECS at 2123 to Newton Heath

 

[mic505]

No, a 153 did not leave Northern for the route. EMT takover of the route is planned for August 2019. There is a rumour two cascaded 156's from Northern are to operate the route instead.

 

[stu99]

Just wondering if anyone knows when the 158s will be transferring to Heaton as I've heard May, June and December mentioned?

 

[stu99]

I wonder if anymore of the scotrail units will be transferred this year as a post from someone in scotrail on the 385 thread suggested that their might not be anymore at the minute??

 

[175001]

150130 and 150131 moving north tomorrow.

 

[stu99]

150130 and 150131 moving north tomorrow.

Thanks updated the list on the second post, That will be all of the 150s for now!

 

[507021]

Thanks updated the list on the second post, That will be all of the 150s for now!

That's a really useful list Stu, thank you for keeping it up to date.

 

[stu99]

That's a really useful list Stu, thank you for keeping it up to date.

No problem , glad it's appreciated

 

[bunnahabhain]

No, a 153 did not leave Northern for the route. EMT takover of the route is planned for August 2019. There is a rumour two cascaded 156's from Northern are to operate the route instead.

That was planned, now likely to be 5 Class 153s coming from GWR.

 

[adrock1976]

That was planned, now likely to be 5 Class 153s coming from GWR.

To clarify, is the 5 x 153s from GWR to Northern or EMT?

 

[mic505]

5 x 153's released from GWR to go to EMT.

 

[Batman]

5 x 153's released from GWR to go to EMT.

Aren't EMT getting all of WMT's 153's at the end of the year as well?

They'll come in useful strengthening Lincolnshire rural services and Derby-Crewe.

But wasn't the original plan for them all to be scrapped because of how LM gave them very little by the way of maintenance during the 10 years they were with them. The body sag on them is becoming more obvious even to the untrained eye.

 

[mic505]

Deleted.

 

[Yorkshireman16]

hi 150106 was at york station platform 8 parked up 1 april

 

[stu99]

There were meant to be training on 158s at Heaton and the North east from April apparently but there will probably be a delay does anyone know when?

 

[Masboroughlad]

Have there been any pictures or artist impressions of what.the Class 170s will look like in Northern livery?

 

[NewcastleOne]

Have there been any pictures or artist impressions of what.the Class 170s will look like in Northern livery?

If you look on the Northern wiki page there is a picture a Northern 170 in the Base Livery.

 

[Chester1]

Aren't EMT getting all of WMT's 153's at the end of the year as well?

They'll come in useful strengthening Lincolnshire rural services and Derby-Crewe.

But wasn't the original plan for them all to be scrapped because of how LM gave them very little by the way of maintenance during the 10 years they were with them. The body sag on them is becoming more obvious even to the untrained eye.

I doubt it will be difficult to make them last another year until they are withdrawn by the PRM-TSI deadline. Putting double 153s on Crewe to Derby would certainly be a welcome improvement!

 

[Bovverboy]

I doubt it will be difficult to make them last another year until they are withdrawn by the PRM-TSI deadline. Putting double 153s on Crewe to Derby would certainly be a welcome improvement!

Out of interest, what operates Crewe -Derby now?

 

[stu99]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Northern_Class_170.png

 

[SteveyBee131]

Out of interest, what operates Crewe -Derby now?

I saw a single 153 doing one today. Think usually a mix of singles and pairs of 153s but don't quote me