Northern Unit Refurbishments

[3973EXL]

5N31 1638 Wolverton - NH ran with a 156

 

[superkev]

5N31 1638 Wolverton - NH ran with a 156

Prob 156 421 which went there for some reason on 14th Nov.
K

 

[_toommm_]

319372 now has the new capital letter Northern lettering but no other branding on its Thameslink base livery.

You really would struggle to tell which TOC it was if it wasn’t for the logos.

It’s also a bit broken, and Notch One of power doesn’t sound very happy.

 

[HA25322]

150209 shown as going to Crewe today as 5B42 13.02 Newton Heath - Crewe CS.

 

[Adam0984]

150215 Wolverton to Neville Hill
150222 Neville Hill to Wolverton
150127 Crewe to Newton Heath

 

[superkev]

02.09 Nevill hill to Wolverton has run
08.08 Wolverton Nevill hill running
09.37 Wolverton to Allerton not run yet.
10.14 Crewe to NH has run
Aft
13.02 NH to Crewe
K

 

[CHAPS2034]

150209 shown as going to Crewe today as 5B42 13.02 Newton Heath - Crewe CS.

Confirmed passing Cheadle Hulme

08.08 Wolverton Nevill hill running

Confirmed as 150215 passing Wilmslow 0957

 

[Jamesrob637]

02.09 Nevill hill to Wolverton has run
08.08 Wolverton Nevill hill running
09.37 Wolverton to Allerton not run yet.
10.14 Crewe to NH has run
Aft
13.02 NH to Crewe
K

Wolverton to Allerton rescheduled for tomorrow? Be best if all 323s are back up here for Monday. Sundays only need like 3 units out so crap is the service

 

[jonesy3001]

Wolverton to Allerton rescheduled for tomorrow? Be best if all 323s are back up here for Monday. Sundays only need like 3 units out so crap is the service

Probably needed since 2 went down on the hadfield line bringing the wires down at guide bridge and ardwick.

 

[Ribbleman]

150209 shown as going to Crewe today as 5B42 13.02 Newton Heath - Crewe CS.

Will it have a toilet after it is refurbished?

 

[superkev]

Wolverton to Allerton rescheduled for tomorrow? Be best if all 323s are back up here for Monday. Sundays only need like 3 units out so crap is the service

Nothing Wolverton to Allerton on RTT.
Wolverton works doesn't appear to work sundays so prob unlikely.
The last 323 took a number of attempts over a few weeks to get back to Allerton.
I have 323 224 as being there since 24 August.
K

 

[158757]

150146 now has moquette seat covers.

 

[superkev]

Todays Holbeck to Heaton is running presumably 156 491 which went there for floorcoverings etc on 29Nov.
I believe it was the last one to do.
K

For interest my list which is derived mainly from here has:-
I make Northern having 370 units in use or in works plus the 5 x 769s undergoing test/training.
Of these 7 are left to refurbish of which 5 are in works leaving 158 791 and 861 still running in purple. 18 x153s remain until??.
In works for PRM and refurb I have former Scotrail 156447 ar Eastleigh since 18th Oct and 323 224 at Wolverton since 24th Aug.
In works for refurb I have at Crewe 150129 (5thDec), 150208 (12Dec) and 158855 (2Dec).
319372 is still running in Thamslink livery. What's it future hold I wonder.
Around 180 units await digital train mods.
May be of use. Corrections appreciated.
K

 

[158757]

Updated lists 13/12/20, corrections welcome. Any further updates on moquette changes appreciated, only 8 15x units that are due to be changed now left to go.

Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Old Serco-Abellio Northern purple

# – Digital Train Modifications complete (USB, CCTV, additional PIS screens)
# - Northern Connect Mods (Seat reservations)
Prototype refurbishment – light blue seat backs, Arriva turquoise grab poles, cream coloured end walls

150001 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150002 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats

# 150101 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150102 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150103 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150104 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150105 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150106 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150107 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150108 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150109 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150110 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150111 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150112 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150113 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150114 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150115 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150116 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150117 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150118 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150119 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150120 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150121 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150122 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150123 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150124 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150125 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150126 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150127 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150128 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150129 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats (in works, Crewe)
150130 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150131 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150132 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150133 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150134 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150135 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150136 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150137 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150138 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150139 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150140 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150141 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150142 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150143 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150144 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150145 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150146 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150147 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150148 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150149 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150150 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

150120, 123, 128, 130, 131 retain Silverlink NSE blue wall carpet
150136 has several rows of seats in airline layout

150201 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150203 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150204 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150205 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150206 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150209 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats (no toilet) (in works, Crewe)
150210 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150211 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150214 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150215 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150218 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150220 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150222 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150223 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150224 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150225 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150226 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150228 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150268 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150269 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150270 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150271 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150272 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150273 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150274 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150275 – Refurbished (prototype style), new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150276 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150277 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats

150205 has a row of seats that were incorrectly fitted in a bay layout on refurb

155341 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155342 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155343 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155344 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155345 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155346 - Refurbished (prototype style), new blue moquette Chapman seats
155347 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

# 156420 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156421 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156423 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156424 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156425 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156426 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156427 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156428 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156429 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156438 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156440 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156441 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156443 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156444 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156447 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Eastleigh)
156448 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156449 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 156451 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156452 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156454 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156455 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156459 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156460 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156461 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156463 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156464 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156465 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 156466 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156468 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156469 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156471 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156472 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156475 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156479 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156480 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats (RAF 100 vinyls)
156481 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156482 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156483 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156484 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156485 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
156486 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156487 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156488 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156489 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156490 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156491 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156496 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

158752 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
158753 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
158754 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
158755 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
158756 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
158757 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158758 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats (in works, Holbeck)
158759 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats

158782 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158784 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158786 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158787 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158789 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158790 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158791 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158792 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158793 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158794 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158795 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158796 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158797 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158815 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158816 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158817 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158842 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158843 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158844 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
## 158845 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158848 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
## 158849 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158850 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158851 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158853 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158855 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Crewe)
158859 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158860 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (Thank you NHS vinyls)
158861 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158867 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158868 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158869 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158870 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158871 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158872 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

158901 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158902 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158903 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158904 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158905 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158906 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158907 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158908 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158909 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158910 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

158752 and 158756 have cream coloured end walls instead of navy blue

158752-759, 782, 786, 789, 867-871 retain the parcels cupboard in the 57 end vehicle

# 170453 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170454 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170455 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170456 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170457 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170458 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170459 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170460 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170461 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170472 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170473 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170474 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170475 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170476 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170477 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170478 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats

170453-458 retain an old first class section (declassified) at each end of the train

Key

Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Unbranded Thameslink White/Blue

319361 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319366 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319367 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319368 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319369 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319370 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319372 – unrefurbished, FCC moquette seats and interior
319375 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319378 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319379 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319381 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319383 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319384 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319385 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319386 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats

769424 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
769431 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769434 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769442 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769448 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769450 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
769456 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
769458 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

319367 has additional PIS screens fitted although never used
All Northern 769s retain a declassified first class section

323223 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323224 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
323225 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323226 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323227 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323228 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323229 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323230 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323231 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323232 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323233 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323234 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323235 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323236 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323237 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323238 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323239 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

333001 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333002 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333003 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333004 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333005 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333006 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333007 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333008 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333009 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333010 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333011 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333012 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333013 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333014 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333015 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333016 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

 

[jonesy3001]

Todays Holbeck to Heaton is running presumably 156 491 which went there for floorcoverings etc on 29Nov.
I believe it was the last one to do.
K

For interest my list which is derived mainly from here has:-
I make Northern having 370 units in use or in works plus the 5 x 769s undergoing test/training.
Of these 7 are left to refurbish of which 5 are in works leaving 158 791 and 861 still running in purple. 18 x153s remain until??.
In works for PRM and refurb I have former Scotrail 156491 ar Eastleigh since 18th Oct and 323 224 at Wolverton since 24th Aug.
In works for refurb I have at Crewe 150129 (5thDec), 150208 (12Dec) and 158855 (2Dec).
319372 is still running in Thamslink livery. What's it future hold I wonder.
Around 180 units await digital train mods.
May be of use. Corrections appreciated.
K

They'll probably keep 372 til next year as it has the mods, 373 was the one that didn't.

 

[3973EXL]

STP

19/12
Realtime Trains - FRGT 1022 Bristol Barton Hill W.R.D. to Heaton T&R.S.M.D.
Realtime Trains - FRGT 1034 Crewe C.S. to Newton Heath T.M.D.

18/12
Realtime Trains - FRGT 0928 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Allerton Depot

 

[158757]

If they run the above moves should be 158843, 150129 and 323224 by my reckoning.

 

[3973EXL]

Allerton 18/12 retimed

VSTP
Realtime Trains - 5Q36 1128 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Allerton Depot

19/12 WTT VAR

Realtime Trains - FRGT 0808 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Neville Hill T&R.S.M.D

20/12 STP

Realtime Trains - FRGT 1223 Neville Hill T&R.S.M.D to Crewe C.S.

 

[158757]

150149 now has the new moquette.

 

[superkev]

Allerton 18/12 retimed

VSTP
Realtime Trains - 5Q36 1128 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Allerton Depot

19/12 WTT VAR

Realtime Trains - FRGT 0808 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Neville Hill T&R.S.M.D

20/12 STP

Realtime Trains - FRGT 1223 Neville Hill T&R.S.M.D to Crewe C.S.

11.28 Wolverton to Allerton seems to be cancelled again.
Also
10.34 Crewe to NH prob 150129 the last 150/1 to refurb.
12.28 NL to Crewe prob NLs last purple 158791 or possibly Heatons 158855
K

 

[3973EXL]

0808 Wolverton - NL dep 0814
5E12 1022 Barton Hill - HT dep 1023
5B31 1034 Crewe - NH dep 1025

 

[CHAPS2034]

10.34 Crewe to NH prob 150129 the last 150/1 to refurb.

Confirmed passing Wilmslow at 1054

 

[superkev]

0808 Wolverton - NL dep 0814
5E12 1022 Barton Hill - HT dep 1023
5B31 1034 Crewe - NH dep 1025

I suspect 0808 Wolverton to NL was 150222 which went there prob warrenty work on 12th Dec.
10.22 Bristol Barton hill prob 158 843 which returned there for some reason on 22nd Oct.
K

 

[sbrignall72]

11.28 Wolverton to Allerton seems to be cancelled again.
Also
10.34 Crewe to NH prob 150129 the last 150/1 to refurb.
12.28 NL to Crewe prob NLs last purple 158791 or possibly Heatons 158855
K

158791 is on Donny to Sheffield and 158861 is in the North East. So maybe one of the 158867 to 158871 which hasn't returned to Crewe yet.

 

[3973EXL]

158791 is on Donny to Sheffield and 158861 is in the North East. So maybe one of the 158867 to 158871 which hasn't returned to Crewe yet.

The NL - Crewe runs tomorrow.

 

[simon7929]

This could be 158843.

Realtime Trains - 597S 1022 Bristol Barton Hill W.R.D. to Heaton T&R.S.M.D.

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[northernchris]

158791 is on Donny to Sheffield and 158861 is in the North East. So maybe one of the 158867 to 158871 which hasn't returned to Crewe yet.

158870 is currently at Crewe, but the rest of that batch have already returned so it's an interesting one as to what will run (if anything!)

150205 now has the new seat covers, and 158901 and 158904 have received digi train mods

 

[3973EXL]

Eastleigh
156447

Wolverton
323224

Crewe
150209
158855/870

20/12
Realtime Trains - FRGT 1223 Neville Hill T&R.S.M.D to Crewe C.S.

23/12
Realtime Trains - FRGT 0933 Crewe C.S. to Neville Hill T&R.S.M.D

 

[superkev]

This could be 158843.

Realtime Trains - 597S 1022 Bristol Barton Hill W.R.D. to Heaton T&R.S.M.D.

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Already refurbished 158843 went back to Bristol Barton on 22nd Oct for some reason so prob back to Heaton today. No other Northern units at Bristol me thinks.
K
K

 

[3973EXL]

Wolverton - NL was 150222