Northern Unit Refurbishments

[diligentdave]

Ok thank you

Yeah, apologies. 156490 was supposed to be on this move yesterday but unfortunately if got put back out on diagram so I had to make a quick change to the unit number involved (whatever was spare on depot basically).

 

[St. Paddy]

Yeah, apologies. 156490 was supposed to be on this move yesterday but unfortunately if got put back out on diagram so I had to make a quick change to the unit number involved (whatever was spare on depot basically).

Is it going for heavy bodywork repairs or just a routine overhaul?

 

[sbrignall72]

What are the current dates for when 156416, 417 and 448 are due back.

 

[diligentdave]

Is it going for heavy bodywork repairs or just a routine overhaul?

All the Angel 156's are "supposed" to be having C6 overhaul but the bodywork corrosion is to such an extent that they also need major repairs.

What are the current dates for when 156416, 417 and 448 are due back.

416 is supposedly penciled in for output 14th Sept, 417 is earmarked for 7th Nov and 448 is due out 2nd Sept.

 

[simon7929]

Some of the Angel leased Heaton based 156s have some bad corrosion issues. Usually around the toilet area. Just above the solebar. Also where the crew valve is located is another regular location.

 

[St. Paddy]

All the Angel 156's are "supposed" to be having C6 overhaul but the bodywork corrosion is to such an extent that they also need major repairs

Thanks

 

[Ryry]

Has 156438 been out in service yet

 

[Liam L]

WMR 323 northern mods:

323218 back at Soho, 323207 now at Bletchley. https://twitter.com/Andym13/status/1682848833657622528?s=20

 

[Ryry]

156438 is back out in service and is operating a Carlisle to Whitby . Whitby to darlington

 

[sbrignall72]

All the Angel 156's are "supposed" to be having C6 overhaul but the bodywork corrosion is to such an extent that they also need major repairs.

416 is supposedly penciled in for output 14th Sept, 417 is earmarked for 7th Nov and 448 is due out 2nd Sept.

What is the general time away for a C6 overhaul. Without all yhe corrosion repair

 

[diligentdave]

What is the general time away for a C6 overhaul. Without all yhe corrosion repair

30 days.

 

[sbrignall72]

30 days.

Ok see if that is the case for 156471 then

 

[LowLevel]

Some of the Angel leased Heaton based 156s have some bad corrosion issues. Usually around the toilet area. Just above the solebar. Also where the crew valve is located is another regular location.

BR design droplight windows have always been notorious for trapping water in the window pocket which then rots the bodywork from the inside out. The bit of rubber that is intended to try and stop water running down the window and into the pocket is no use whatsoever.

 

[diligentdave]

Updated list 23/1/22 with units now with Digital Train Mods, any updates on 156 and 158 DTM mods appreciated as I don't see these as often. I've also added in the 195 seat cover change programme, I'll add in the 331s when they start. Updates and corrections welcome.

Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Northern unbranded livery
EMR unbranded livery

# – Digital Train Modifications complete (USB, CCTV, additional PIS screens)
# - Northern Connect Mods (Seat reservations)
Prototype refurbishment – light blue seat backs, Arriva turquoise grab poles, cream coloured end walls

150001 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150002 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats

150003: 150116 / 57209 Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150004: 150112 / 57212 Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150005: 150117 / 52223 Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats (Chapman seats in centre vehicle)
150006: 150147 / 57223 Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

# 150101 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150102 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150103 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150104 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150105 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150106 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150107 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150108 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150109 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150110 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150111 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150113 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150114 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150115 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150118 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150119 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150120 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150121 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150122 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150123 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150124 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150125 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150126 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150127 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150128 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150129 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150130 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150131 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150132 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150133 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150134 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150135 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150136 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150137 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150138 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150139 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150140 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150141 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150142 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150143 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150144 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150145 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150146 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150148 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150149 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150150 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

150120, 123, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131 retain Silverlink NSE blue wall carpet
150136 and 150140 several rows of seats in airline layout

150201 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150203 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150204 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150205 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150206 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150210 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150211 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150214 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150215 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150218 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150220 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150222 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150224 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150225 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150226 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150228 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150268 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150269 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150270 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150271 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150272 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150273 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150274 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150275 – Refurbished (prototype style), new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150276 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150277 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats

150205 has a row of seats that were incorrectly fitted in a bay layout on refurb

155341 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155342 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155343 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155344 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155345 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155346 - Refurbished (prototype style), new blue moquette Chapman seats
155347 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

156401 - Unrefurbished, EMT red moquette Chapman seats
156402 - Unrefurbished, GA "chicken drumstick" moquette Chapman seats
156412 - Unrefurbished, GA "chicken drumstick" moquette Chapman seats
156415 - Unrefurbished, EMT red moquette Chapman seats
# 156420 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156421 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156423 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156424 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156425 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156426 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156427 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156428 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156429 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156438 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156440 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156441 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156443 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156444 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156447 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
156448 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156449 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 156451 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156452 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156454 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156455 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156459 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156460 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156461 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156463 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156464 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156465 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 156466 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156468 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156469 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156471 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156472 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156475 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156479 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156480 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats (RAF 100 vinyls)
# 156481 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156482 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156483 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156484 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156485 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 156486 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156487 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156488 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156489 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156490 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156491 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156496 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

# 158752 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158753 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158754 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158755 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158756 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158757 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158758 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158759 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats

158782 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158784 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158786 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158787 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158789 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158790 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158791 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158792 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158793 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158794 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158795 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158796 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158797 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158815 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158816 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158817 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158842 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158843 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158844 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
## 158845 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158848 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
## 158849 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158850 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158851 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158853 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158855 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158859 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158860 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (Thank you NHS vinyls)
158861 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158867 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158868 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158869 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158870 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158871 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158872 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

# 158901 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158902 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158903 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158904 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158905 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158906 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158907 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158908 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158909 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158910 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

158752 and 158756 have cream coloured end walls instead of navy blue

158752-759, 782, 786, 789, 867-871 retain the parcels cupboard in the 57 end vehicle

170453 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170454 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170455 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170456 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170457 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170458 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170459 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170460 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170461 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170472 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170473 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170474 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170475 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170476 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170477 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170478 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

170453-458 retain an old first class section (declassified) at each end of the train. TrainFX to be installed at a later date.

Key

Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Unbranded Thameslink White/Blue

319361 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319366 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319367 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319368 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319369 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319370 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319372 – unrefurbished,new blue flat cloth moquette seats and FCC interior
319375 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319378 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319379 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319381 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319383 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319384 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319385 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319386 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats

769424 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769431 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769434 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769442 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769448 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769450 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769456 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769458 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

319367 has additional PIS screens fitted although never used
All Northern 769s retain a declassified first class section

323223 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323224 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323225 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323226 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323227 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323228 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323229 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323230 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323231 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323232 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323233 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323234 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323235 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323236 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323237 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323238 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323239 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

333001 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333002 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333003 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333004 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333005 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333006 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333007 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333008 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333009 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333010 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333011 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333012 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333013 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333014 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333015 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333016 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

195001 - flat cloth seats
195002 - blue moquette seats
195003 - flat cloth seats
195004 - blue moquette seats
195005 - blue moquette seats
195006 - flat cloth seats
195007 - blue moquette seats
195008 - flat cloth seats
195009 - blue moquette seats
195010 - flat cloth seats
195011 - flat cloth seats
195012 - blue moquette seats
195013 - flat cloth seats
195014 - blue moquette seats
195015 - flat cloth seats
195016 - flat cloth seats
195017 - flat cloth seats
195018 - flat cloth seats
195019 - blue moquette seats
195020 - flat cloth seats
195021 - flat cloth seats
195022 - flat cloth seats
195023 - flat cloth seats
195024 - blue moquette seats
195025 - flat cloth seats

195101 - flat cloth seats
195102 - flat cloth seats
195103 - flat cloth seats
195104 - flat cloth seats
195105 - flat cloth seats
195106 - flat cloth seats
195107 - flat cloth seats
195108 - flat cloth seats
195109 - flat cloth seats
195110 - flat cloth seats
195111 - flat cloth seats
195112 - flat cloth seats
195113 - blue moquette seats
195114 - flat cloth seats
195115 - flat cloth seats
195116 - flat cloth seats
195117 - flat cloth seats
195118 - flat cloth seats
195119 - blue moquette seats
195120 - flat cloth seats
195121 - flat cloth seats
195122 - flat cloth seats
195123 - flat cloth seats
195124 - flat cloth seats
195125 - flat cloth seats
195126 - flat cloth seats
195127 - flat cloth seats
195128 - flat cloth seats
195129 - blue moquette seats
195130 - flat cloth seats
195131 - flat cloth seats
195132 - flat cloth seats
195133 - flat cloth seats

Is there a latest update on this?

 

[skyhigh]

Is there a latest update on this?

Are you checking you've not missed any?

 

[jonesy3001]

Are you checking you've not missed any?

Looks like it needs the transferred 156s adding.
156401-6/8-19/22.

 

[175001]

156409 out now, smelling "as new" when I boarded it. On Buxton/Hazel Grove circuit today

 

[Liam L]

323205, 323208, 323210, 323212 are back in traffic with USB mods.
323218 at the works currently.

They won't be repainted before transfer next year.

Snice my last poost:

323202 returned to soho today after digitmod, 323207 was done before it.

323203 on it's way to Bletchley now.

 

[jonesy3001]

Snice my last poost:

323202 returned to soho today after digitmod, 323207 was done before it.

323203 on it's way to Bletchley now.

Getting through them quickly now, wonder if the other 9 323s will be done or be used at parts to keep the fleet going.

 

[Liam L]

Getting through them quickly now, wonder if the other 9 323s will be done or be used at parts to keep the fleet going.

Nothing confirmed yet, as it stands being returned to leasing company I believe.

 

[Ryry]

Just seen a video on YouTube regarding new trains for northern.?

Is there any news on what units would be next to be replaced?

 

[jonesy3001]

Just seen a video on YouTube regarding new trains for northern.?

Is there any news on what units would be next to be replaced?

Do you have the link for the youtube video please?
All of the fleet apart from the CAF units are to be replaced, probably starting with the 150s first.
Best of posting in this thread, if it's about the new units.

Northern Tender for up to 450 units

Mod Note: Posts #1 - #83 originally in this thread This was published on Friday afternoon for a new tender for 450 units for northern. https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/022810-2023 The objective of this procurement is to enter into a framework agreement with a single supplier for...

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Do you have the link for the youtube video please?
All of the fleet apart from the CAF units are to be replaced, probably starting with the 150s first.

Not necessarily 150s first despite them being the oldest, as they're more suited for some services due to door positions and being 20m carriages. Some of the 156s will likely go concurrently with 150s due to corrosion.

 

[jonesy3001]

Not necessarily 150s first despite them being the oldest, as they're more suited for some services due to door positions and being 20m carriages. Some of the 156s will likely go concurrently with 150s due to corrosion.

Would of thought, they would of been the first to go.
150s, 155s, 156s, 158s then the 323s and 333s depending on what they build first, emus or bi-modes.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Would of thought, they would of been the first to go.
150s, 155s, 156s, 158s then the 323s and 333s depending on what they build first, emus or bi-modes.

That's the thing though- some units have aged better than others, or have something about them that makes replacement more tricky. Several Northern routes have had platform extensions that (short-sightedly) assumed 60m formations for the foreseeable future. This in turn means that any replacement of the 3-car 150s will mean a reduction in capacity until those platforms can be extended further.

 

[reecestrains]

Hi. Some more of the Class 170 Turbostars have had the TrainFX screens installed on them I know 170474 and 170476 have had these installed very recently. At the moment, I know of a small number of the 170's to have the original one's, but it's just a matter of time until they change though...

 

[Halish Railway]

Hi. Some more of the Class 170 Turbostars have had the TrainFX screens installed on them I know 170474 and 170476 have had these installed very recently. At the moment, I know of a small number of the 170's to have the original one's, but it's just a matter of time until they change though...

Once they're done you'd imagine that the 333s will be next in line.

 

[skyhigh]

Once they're done you'd imagine that the 333s will be next in line.

333s are not waiting for the 170s to be done. They should have been done by now but there are some technical issues that are being worked through with Siemens before installation can proceed.

 

[Blindtraveler]

Does anybody know more about these supposed technical issues with the 333 fleet

 

[158757]

Since I've got a spare half an hour for once, I'll attempt to update this. I know the 150/0, 170, 323 and 333 info is not up to date as I don't see them regularly so any corrections to this would be useful. Hope this helps @diligentdave and if you have a spare 5 minutes the flip down seats on the 3 car 158s never had their old purple covers changed, it bugs me every time I see it and it would be nice to see it sorted

Liveries

Northern livery with logos

# – Digital Train Modifications complete (USB, CCTV, additional PIS screens)
# - Northern Connect Mods (Seat reservations)
Prototype refurbishment – light blue seat backs, Arriva turquoise grab poles, cream coloured end walls

150001 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150002 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats

150003: 150116 / 57209 Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150004: 150112 / 57212 Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150005: 150117 / 52223 Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats (Chapman seats in centre vehicle)
150006: 150147 / 57223 Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

# 150101 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150102 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150103 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150104 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150105 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150106 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150107 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150108 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150109 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150110 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150111 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150113 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150114 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150115 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150118 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150119 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150120 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150121 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150122 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150123 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150124 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150125 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150126 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150127 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150128 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150129 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150130 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150131 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150132 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150133 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150134 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150135 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150136 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150137 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150138 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150139 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150140 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150141 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150142 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150143 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150144 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150145 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150146 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150148 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150149 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150150 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

150136 and 150140 several rows of seats in airline layout

# 150201 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150203 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150204 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150205 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150206 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150210 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150211 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150214 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150215 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150218 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150220 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150222 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150224 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150225 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150226 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150228 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150268 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150269 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150270 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150271 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150272 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150273 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150274 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150275 – Refurbished (prototype style), new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150276 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150277 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats

150205 has a row of seats that were incorrectly fitted in a bay layout on refurb

# 155341 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 155342 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 155343 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 155344 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 155345 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 155346 - Refurbished (prototype style), new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 155347 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

156401 - Unrefurbished, EMT red moquette Chapman seats
156402 - Unrefurbished, GA "chicken drumstick" moquette Chapman seats
156403 - Unrefurbished, EMT red moquette Chapman seats
156404 - Unrefurbished, EMT red moquette Chapman seats
156405 - Unrefurbished, EMT red moquette Chapman seats
156406 - Unrefurbished, EMT red moquette Chapman seats
156408 - Unrefurbished, EMT red moquette Chapman seats
156409 - Partially refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156410 - Unrefurbished, EMT red moquette Chapman seats
156411 - Unrefurbished, EMT red moquette Chapman seats
156412 - Unrefurbished, GA "chicken drumstick" moquette Chapman seats
156413 - Unrefurbished, EMT red moquette Chapman seats
156414 - Unrefurbished, EMT red moquette Chapman seats
156415 - Unrefurbished, EMT red moquette Chapman seats
156416 - Unrefurbished, GA "chicken drumstick" moquette Chapman seats
156417 - Unrefurbished, GA "chicken drumstick" moquette Chapman seats
156418 - Unrefurbished, GA "chicken drumstick" moquette Chapman seats
156419 - Unrefurbished, GA "chicken drumstick" moquette Chapman seats
# 156420 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156421 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156422 - Unrefurbished, GA "chicken drumstick" moquette Chapman seats
# 156423 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156424 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156425 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156426 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156427 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156428 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156429 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156438 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156440 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156441 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156443 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156444 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156447 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 156448 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156449 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 156451 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156452 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156454 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156455 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156459 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156460 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156461 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156463 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156464 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156465 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 156466 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156468 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156469 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156471 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156472 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156475 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156479 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156480 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats (RAF 100 vinyls)
# 156481 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156482 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156483 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156484 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156485 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 156486 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156487 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156488 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156489 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156490 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156491 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156496 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats

# 158752 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158753 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158754 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158755 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158756 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158757 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158758 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158759 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats

# 158782 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158784 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158786 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158787 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158789 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158790 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158791 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158792 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158793 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158794 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158795 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158796 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158797 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158815 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158816 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158817 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158842 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158843 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158844 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
## 158845 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158848 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
## 158849 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158850 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158851 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158853 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158855 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158859 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158860 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats (Thank you NHS vinyls)
# 158861 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158867 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158868 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158869 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158870 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158871 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158872 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats

# 158901 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158902 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158903 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158904 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158905 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158906 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158907 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158908 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158909 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats
# 158910 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Fainsa seats

158752 and 158756 have cream coloured end walls instead of navy blue

158752-759, 782, 786, 789, 867-871 retain the parcels cupboard in the 57 end vehicle

170453 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170454 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170455 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170456 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170457 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170458 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170459 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170460 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170461 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170472 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170473 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170474 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170475 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170476 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170477 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170478 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

170453-458 retain an old first class section (declassified) at each end of the train. TrainFX installation currently in progress.

Key

Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Unbranded Thameslink White/Blue

319361 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319366 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319367 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319368 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319369 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319370 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319372 – unrefurbished, new blue moquette seats and FCC interior
319375 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319378 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319379 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319381 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319383 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319384 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319385 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319386 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats

769424 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769431 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769434 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769442 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769448 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769450 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769456 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769458 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

319367 has additional PIS screens fitted although never used
All Northern 769s retain a declassified first class section

323223 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323224 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
# 323225 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323226 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323227 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323228 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323229 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323230 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323231 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323232 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323233 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323234 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323235 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323236 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323237 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323238 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323239 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

333001 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333002 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333003 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333004 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333005 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
# 333006 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333007 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333008 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
# 333009 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333010 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
# 333011 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333012 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333013 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333014 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333015 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333016 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

All 195's and 331's are fitted with Fainsa moquette seats