Say no more. Understood.I will just say that if your work performance rating depends to a large extent on your department's performance figures, you will do everything (legally) possible to make those figures look as good as possible.....
Say no more. Understood.I will just say that if your work performance rating depends to a large extent on your department's performance figures, you will do everything (legally) possible to make those figures look as good as possible.....
On the contrary, somebody is trying to build a new timetable every single day, a few hours before the event.I'm sure a planner can tell me the exact distinction, but seeing as "MTP" doesn't exist, and its more than just a week it's neither here nor there. Also, there is still - as I said above - a lot to consider when trying to standardise an "emergency timetable".
That's because P-coding is being misused from its original purpose. Trains should just appear "cancelled" based on the LTP (long term plan) timetable.
Periodic (4-weekly) statistics on resource availability shortage pre-cancellations (i.e. changes to train services caused by non-availability of staff or rolling stock) that are included in a revised timetable, and therefore may not be appearing in operators’ cancellations scores.
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Latest factsheet
Passenger rail performance: Cancellations data factsheet, rail period 10 (10 December 2023 to 6 January 2024)
Passenger rail performance: Cancellations data factsheet, rail period 10 (10 December 2023 to 6 January 2024)
Date published: 26 Jan 2024
Date next published: 23 Feb 2024
Key results
Ten operators recorded resource availability shortage “P*-coded” pre-cancellations in rail period 10. Of these, nine were due to the operator having resource availability shortage, and one was due to both operator and Network Rail resource availability shortage (TfW Rail).
Key results
- Nine operators recorded resource availability shortage “P*-coded” pre-cancellations. Of these, eight were due to the operator having resource availability shortage and one was due to both operator and Network Rail resource availability shortage (TfW Rail).
- Twenty-three out of 24 train operators reported their number of “P*-coded” pre-cancellations in period 12 to ORR. Caledonian Sleeper did not submit data.
Now its OLR operators that are trying to game the system
LNER had the most P-Coded services, due to staff shortages and infrastructure failures, TPE saw lower % of cancellations than Northern
Funny that!Now its OLR operators that are trying to game the system
Doesn't it say LNER was 244 trains P-coded (and 14 part canx) due to lack of rolling stock, rather than due to infrastructure. 36 were due to lack of staff.
LNER had the most P-Coded services, due to staff shortages and infrastructure failures, TPE saw lower % of cancellations than Northern
LNER not helped by the Hitachi strike, which for several weeks resulted in multiple cancellations due to shortage of available stock.Doesn't it say LNER was 244 trains P-coded (and 14 part canx) due to lack of rolling stock, rather than due to infrastructure. 36 were due to lack of staff.
However it splits 1 in 10 trains cancelled is bad, and 3 times the national average
Nail on the headThere is one overriding reason why train cancellations are P-coded; It improves the performance figures!
So long as the figure show "progress" that's all that matters! Reality doesn't come into itNail on the head
Whatever the reasons for P-coding, clearly the operators are deliberately P-coding to manipulate their performance figures
They, the regulators and gov all benefit with artificially enhanced reliability figures
Unfortunately, this isn’t addressing chronic underinvestment and isn’t addressing the reasons behind train cancellations
Smacks of A&E parking ambulances outside to stop the clock ticking on patient admissions
I despair of this country at times
- In period 13, eight operators recorded resource availability shortage “P*-coded” pre-cancellations. Of these, seven were due to the operator having resource availability shortage and one was due to both operator and Network Rail resource availability shortage (TfW Rail).
To be fair, it shows a general improvement.Looks grim up North
Maybe so.....but still grim. TPE and Northern cancelling 100s of services a week. Obviously the right thing to do in letting the passengers know as soon as possible, but still......To be fair, it shows a general improvement.
.... from a dreadful start position.To be fair, it shows a general improvement.
Staffing issues......which has been done to death on here. Until the general climate of industrial relationships improve dramatically, then this will continue until further notice. It's that simple..... from a dreadful start position.
But if some operators can manage to run over 98% of their services, why are a select few so useless at running trains to a published timetable, when they had input in formulating the timetable, or it has hardly changed in a decade. It's not new unproven timetables
Indeed. Most reasons that would be known about in advance other than shortage of trains or train crew would be legitimate. But the ORR isn't reporting those in their adjustments so I'm not sure it's really relevant here?Bear in mind most operators will have legitimate reasons to P-code a small % of trains, especially when disruption spans multiple days.
General Climate, that is a new excuse for cancellationsStaffing issues......which has been done to death on here. Until the general climate of industrial relationships improve dramatically, then this will continue until further notice. It's that simple.
They're still p-coding trains of course. Just only doing it legitimately. The rest are trying to pull the wool over our eyes.The numbers in @Snow1964 are the adjusted cancelletion rates (I.e. including P-codes) and for some operators, there’s none to report, so no difference (e.g. Southeastern, CrossCountry, Elizabeth line)
Where did I mention staff quality?General Climate, that is a new excuse for cancellations
As for staff quality that is HR and Leadership fai
Have you got a bit more detail about this? I will ask internally what's the reasoning.Thought Northern had grown out of the p-code shenanigans of "well if TPE can do it we can too". At least TPE didn't p-code the last services of the night for weeks on end, which prompted the ORR to step in and suggest they at least run one bus in place of the last train - which they were also reluctant to do.
It seems someone in Northern planning has just done this again. There's engineering work south of Manchester which Northern has again tried to use as an excuse to abandon the service two hours early next week, and are currently refusing to put a bus on to replace the last train.
Perhaps the ORR-gan grinder may (again) have to speak to the monkey about the absolute minimum standards of a train service.
-- Not a good first week for Mrs Tricia, aka Mrs £4 to stop your car outside Manchester Airport for 2 minutes. (yep, she did it) - Williams.