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Problems around Sheffield today (29/10)

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Does anyone know what was going on at Sheffield this afternoon with the following services?

1200 XC service from Edinburgh to Bristol held at SHF for 2 hours between 1600 and 1800
1309 XC service from Edinburgh to Plymouth held at SHF for 1 hour between 1700 and 1800
1543 EMR service to Liverpool )
1706 Northern service to Nottm )
1711 TPE to Manchester..........) ...all cancelled due to high winds
1714 Hope Valley Stopper.......)

Some EMR services to London cancelled due to high winds but others operated.

I wasn't aware of any particularly high winds this afternoon, a bit blustery maybe, but not enough to cancel trains surely?

Also, the 1535 XC service from Bristol to Edinburgh was held at Derby for 80 minutes, perhaps waiting for a crew change?
 
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I was surprised at the high winds reasoning, it really wasn't that windy. It seemed chaos around the late afternoon time but eased off once Network Rail turned up to sort the obstruction at Dore.
 

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As posted above, fallen tree on the line between Dore and Heeley loop, which was reported by the driver of the 1155 Norwich-Liverpool.
Where route knowledge allowed, services were diverted via Beighton.
 

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Countless problems with EMR all weekend. A couple of line problems haven't helped (like the tree yesterday) but the overcrowding is dreadful. The rolling stock is just inadequate and it can't handle big sporting events or big demand for the service. Loads of services leaving hordes behind at train stations.

Transpennine/WCML issues haven't helped by putting more pressure on the services.
 

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Looks to have been chaos. This is the RTT record for Dore Station Junction on Saturday afternoon; https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/se...22-10-29/1100-1800?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt

Looking at this it seems some trains got through (possibly working wrong line?), others diverted round the 'old road' and one Liverpool - Norwich service used the Dore curve to avoid Sheffield and the tree.

I was puzzled to see an empty TPE service 'parked' in Dore & Totley station heading into Sheffield with red signals on both lines. All seats with reservation tickets, no passengers and Heineken cans on tables but 'Not in service' see; https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/se...17p0p4Ek949rFexV7osLCszG2HKQiN5OONcu22Y9_if9c

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When Dore gets a second platform I'd hope Northern at least could run a shuttle service from there to Manchester. If this train had been able to move forward out of the platform they might even have been able to do it on Saturday. As it was I gather a bus substitute service was cobbled together between the two cities.
 

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Regarding the offending tree, wherever it was, it seems strange that NR have made excellent progress with tree felling from Chesterfield northwards, on both sides about as far as Dronfield (The site of Unstone Carriage Sidings can be clearly seen again for the first time in many years!)
However, very little seems to have been done North of Bradway Tunnel, when I travelled to Sheffield last week, I noticed the trees and foliage were actually brushing the sides of the train.
If the section from Dore to Sheffield had been cleared with the same application as has been seen further south, the chaos of 29/10 could have been avoided. It sorely needs doing!
 

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Regarding the offending tree, wherever it was, it seems strange that NR have made excellent progress with tree felling from Chesterfield northwards, on both sides about as far as Dronfield (The site of Unstone Carriage Sidings can be clearly seen again for the first time in many years!)
However, very little seems to have been done North of Bradway Tunnel, when I travelled to Sheffield last week, I noticed the trees and foliage were actually brushing the sides of the train.
If the section from Dore to Sheffield had been cleared with the same application as has been seen further south, the chaos of 29/10 could have been avoided. It sorely needs doing!
They supposedly cleared from Bradway Tunnel to Archer Road bridge and certainly did from Dore station northwards. I very rarely travel the bit from Dore Station Junction and the station itself to Chesterfield so can't be certain of all of it but the trees above the tunnel mouth were certainly severely cut back. The contract was northwards from Unstone.
 

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Sorry. Deleted.

Regarding the offending tree, wherever it was, it seems strange that NR have made excellent progress with tree felling from Chesterfield northwards, on both sides about as far as Dronfield (The site of Unstone Carriage Sidings can be clearly seen again for the first time in many years!)
However, very little seems to have been done North of Bradway Tunnel, when I travelled to Sheffield last week, I noticed the trees and foliage were actually brushing the sides of the train.
If the section from Dore to Sheffield had been cleared with the same application as has been seen further south, the chaos of 29/10 could have been avoided. It sorely needs doing!
Is there still what used to be called a "regional boundary" LMR/ER between the two areas? Different areas with different priorities?
 

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Is there still what used to be called a "regional boundary" LMR/ER between the two areas? Different areas with different priorities?
The LNE/LNW boundary is currently on the Hope Valley line near Dore West Junction. Within the next 12-18 months it moves to Hope/Bamford, east of Earles Sidings
 

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I was puzzled to see an empty TPE service 'parked' in Dore & Totley station heading into Sheffield with red signals on both lines. All seats with reservation tickets, no passengers and Heineken cans on tables but 'Not in service' see; https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/se...17p0p4Ek949rFexV7osLCszG2HKQiN5OONcu22Y9_if9c

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It looks like this would normally run in service as the 15:18 to Cleethorpes but was subject to a planned cancellation on this day to Sheffield at least. Could be that the reservations were for a previous service
 

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Noting that India is spending huge amounts of money on electrification and brand new freight lines for double-stack container trains (to mention just two aspects), being next them sounds like high praise.
 

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It looks like this would normally run in service as the 15:18 to Cleethorpes but was subject to a planned cancellation on this day to Sheffield at least. Could be that the reservations were for a previous service
I'm satisfied that the RTT link in my post tallies for timings with that of my photo and 5B82 1518 was indeed empty coaching stock. With TPE at present anything is possible but running empty trains winds up passengers even more.

I remain puzzled as to how a tree can have fallen to block tracks on the wide, previously 4 track, section between Dore and Sheffield, a section that has been extensively cut back only this year.
 

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I'm satisfied that the RTT link in my post tallies for timings with that of my photo and 5B82 1518 was indeed empty coaching stock. With TPE at present anything is possible but running empty trains winds up passengers even more.

I remain puzzled as to how a tree can have fallen to block tracks on the wide, previously 4 track, section between Dore and Sheffield, a section that has been extensively cut back only this year.
Could be as simple as having no guard for a portion of the journey and it may have been planned to restart in service at Sheffield (all supposition, of course)

Whilst it may wind up passengers (many of whom probably wouldn't actually know it had run empty) it is a toss up of the least worst option - is it better to run a portion "dead" (as there is a driver to take it forward) or to cancel the whole lot, back working etc etc?
 

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Well, if that doesn't illustrate the state of things, I don't know what does.

Very insightful column !
We like to think we invented and gave the world railways. I see Indonesia comes in at No 18. Thanks to Chinese drive they'll soon have trains able to reach 180mph; https://www.railway-technology.com/projects/jakarta-to-bandung-high-speed-rail/

Jakarta-Bandung High-Speed Railway, Indonesia​

Jakarta-Bandung is a high-speed rail project being developed in Indonesia, connecting the capital city of Jakarta with Bandung.

Project Type​

High-speed rail

Location​

Jakarta-Bandung, Indonesia

Length​

93mi (150km)

Estimated Investment​

$6.07bn
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The interiors of the high-speed EMU will feature traditional Indonesian Megamendung batik motifs. Credit: China Railway Construction Corporation (CRRC).
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The first high-speed EMU of the Jakarta-Bandung high-speed railway was received by Indonesia in August 2022. Credit: China Railway Construction Corporation (CRRC).
Jakarta-Bandung will be the first high-speed railway project in Indonesia and Southeast Asia, with a track length of 142.3km and an operating speed of 350km/h.

China was selected by the Indonesian Government over Japan to build the fast-train rail link, which is estimated to cost $6.07bn.

The project is being developed by PT Kereta Cepat Indonesia China, a joint venture formed in October 2015 between a consortium of Indonesian state-owned companies, and China Railway International, a subsidiary of China Railway Group (CREC). The project is being carried out on a business-to-business basis, with Indonesia having a 60% interest in the joint venture while China has 40%.


Although construction began in 2016, completion was delayed due to the Covid-19 pandemic. Trial operations on the railway line are expected to be conducted in November 2022. The project is set to commence operations by June 2023.

The project is an important component of China’s Belt and Road Initiative.

Jakarta-Bandung high-speed rail project background

China won the project due to its readiness to provide guarantee-free loans while Japan requested Indonesian Government funding.

The high-profile railway contract was cancelled mid-way due to high costs and funding issues. Plans were changed to a medium-speed rail link that would be 40% cheaper.

Indonesian authorities then reverted the proposal to a high-speed rail link and awarded the contract to China.


Project details

The proposed rail link will be 142.3km long, with an approximate train speed estimated to be between 200km/h and 350km/h. The total length of the track being laid for the project is 279.4km, which includes 112.8km of ballasted track and 166.6km of ballastless track. The project requires at least 30,177 units of slab tracks to construct the track.

Daily passenger flow on the rail link is expected to be 44,000 on average, with this number increasing in later years.

Travel time between the two central hubs will be reduced to 36 minutes, from the original three to five hours.

More than 80km of the total length of the railway line will be elevated while the remaining will be through 13 tunnels and subgrades.

Electricity for the trains will be supplied by an Overhead Catenary System (OCS), installation of which began in June 2022.

Station details

The high-speed railway will have four stopping stations: Halim, Karawang, Padalarang, and Tegalluar, with one depot at Tegalluar. Each station will be connected to public transit routes.

One of the stations will be in Gambir, a major station located in the executive zone close to Monas and is expected to witness a huge passenger flow.

Manggarai will be another station location equipped to handle large number of passengers.

A station near the airport in Halim will connect the high-speed rail to a planned light rail and will provide easy access to the high-speed rail for passengers in south-eastern Jakarta.

Another station will be in Walini in West Bandung, which is to be a new tourism hub in West Java.

Construction details

The construction of the project’s elevated railway track requires more than 2,000 girder boxes. Installation of the girder boxes is 80% complete as of April 2022 and is expected to be fully completed by September 2022.

All 13 tunnels of the project were completed in June 2022. Tunnel 2 with a length of 1,052m was one of the most difficult projects due to the unstable soil structure. The completion of the Walini tunnel in May 2019 was an important milestone for the project.

Several temporary facilities, such as the batching plants and casting yards, have been established at various locations to help speed up the building process. Three casting yards were built in Cikarang, Karawang, and Kapo to manufacture the girder boxes.

As of August 2022, 90% of the civil works related to the construction of subgrade, bridges, and stations have been completed. The track laying process is being carried out in phases and is targeted to be completed by January 2023.

Rolling stock

The project will use CR400AF-type electric multiple units (EMUs), developed by CRRC Qingdao Sifang, a rolling stock manufacturer based in China. CRRC will provide 11 sets of eight-car EMUs for the project.

The design and shape of the trains is inspired by the Komodo dragon, which is an endemic animal to Indonesia. The interiors of the train feature traditional Indonesian Megamendung batik motifs. The trains will feature several classes such as VIP, first, and second class, in addition to dining car facilities, charging ports, facilities for the disabled, and luggage storage space.

In April 2022, manufacturing of all the 11 EMUs for the project was completed. The first high-speed EMU was unveiled in August 2022. Indonesia received the inaugural EMU train and a Comprehensive Inspection Train (CIT) or inspection train during the same month.

The inspection train is installed with equipment to detect track conditions, measure overhead electricity, inspect the communication and signalling systems, and wheel-rail dynamics. It can collect, process, and analyse data collected on the condition of the track in real time.

Signalling and communications systems

The project will utilise the CTSC-3 system, a Chinese train control system based on GSM-R wireless communication, to provide two-way communication between the train and the control centre. The GSM-R frequency planned to be used by the system is 900MHz.

The CTSC-3 system consists of three main components including onboard equipment, wayside equipment, and a centralised traffic control (CTC) centre at Tegalluar. The equipment will feature Radio Block Center (RBC) technology to generate movement authority (MA), track circuits to check train occupation, and Balise to inform train positions.

The project will include a dispatching monitoring centre, threat detection sensors, and a disaster monitoring terminal at Tegalluar and CCTV installed along the route, which will be supported by GSM-R communication technology.

A foreign object protection system with six sensory devices will be installed in every overpass, along with seven sensors to detect earthquake threats for up to 25km, eight sensors set 20km apart to detect threats from rain, and 17 sensors to detect threats from strong winds.

A lightning protection system (LPS) in the form of lightning wire will be installed to protect the OCS.

Financing for the rail project

The project is financed through a Chinese loan, without aid from the Indonesian State budget. The China Development Bank is providing approximately 75% of the funding, and the rest is being arranged by the joint venture partners.

The loan will be for a 40-year period, with a ten-year grace period.

In August 2022, the Indonesian government announced funding of $274m to railway operator PT Kereta Api Indonesia (PT KAI) to hasten the development of the project.

Key players involved

China Railway Construction Corp (CRCC) entered a joint venture with a consortium of Indonesia’s state-owned enterprises (SOEs) led by PT Wijaya Karya Tbk to develop the high-speed rail project.

The Indonesian consortium comprises construction company PT Wijaya Karya, PT KAI, toll-road builder PT Jasa Marga, and plantation company PT Perkebunan Nusantara VIII.

CREC is the main contractor for the construction of the project.

A number of Chinese state-owned enterprises are part of the project including Sinohydro Bureau 8, Power Construction Corporation China, China TieSiJu Civil Engineering Group (CTCE), China Railway No. 4 Engineering Group, China Railway No.3 Engineering Group, China Railway Electrification Engineering Group, China Railway Shanhaiguan Bridge Group, and China Railway Hi-Tech Industry.

Keller Franki Indonesia, a subsidiary of geotechnical design and construction services provider Keller Group, installed bored piles to support foundations for the project.

Benefits of Jakarta to Bandung high-speed rail

The project is expected to generate 40,000 jobs a year during construction, creating a positive economic impact.

Associated industries such as smelting, manufacturing, infrastructure, power generation, electronics, services, and logistics will also receive a boost, thus leading to balanced growth in all sectors.

Stations and their surrounding areas will experience an increase in activity and development, which will result in new opportunities for the real estate sector. Urban and rural areas along the route will also experience balanced development.
 

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We like to think we invented and gave the world railways. I see Indonesia comes in at No 18. Thanks to Chinese drive they'll soon have trains able to reach 180mph; https://www.railway-technology.com/projects/jakarta-to-bandung-high-speed-rail/

Jakarta-Bandung High-Speed Railway, Indonesia​

Jakarta-Bandung is a high-speed rail project being developed in Indonesia, connecting the capital city of Jakarta with Bandung.

Project Type​

High-speed rail

Location​

Jakarta-Bandung, Indonesia

Length​

93mi (150km)

Estimated Investment​

$6.07bn
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Image-6-Jakarta-Bandung-High-Speed-Rail-Indonesia.jpg
The interiors of the high-speed EMU will feature traditional Indonesian Megamendung batik motifs. Credit: China Railway Construction Corporation (CRRC).
Image-1-Jakarta-Bandung-High-Speed-Rail-Indonesia.jpg
The first high-speed EMU of the Jakarta-Bandung high-speed railway was received by Indonesia in August 2022. Credit: China Railway Construction Corporation (CRRC).

The irony is, we don't need lots of new lines and grand projects. If they ran long enough trains on the current network and had it working properly (and with consistently decent fares) ours would be a fairly decent network.
 

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John Harris, writing in the Guardian today, says "The World Economic Forum now places the UK 29th in its global rankings for the quality of its railways, in between Kazakhstan and India."

Have they taken, for example, safety standards and performance into account? Perhaps a quote from the article linked in Post #12 might clarify:

Definition: The Quality of railroad infrastrucutre indicator is one of the components of the Global Competitiveness Index published annually by the World Economic Forum (WEF). It represents an assessment of the quality of the railroad system in a given country based on data from the WEF Executive Opinion Survey, a long-running and extensive survey tapping the opinions of over 14,000 business leaders in 144 countries. The score for railroad infrastrucutre quality is based on only one question. The respondents are asked to rate the railroads in their country of operation on a scale from 1 (underdeveloped) to 7 (extensive and efficient by international standards). The individual responses are aggregated to produce a country score.

So in fact there is no rigorous analysis whatsoever, merely a ranking of each country's rail infrastrucutre (sic), not its railways overall, based on a single question! This so-called study is about as much use as it's author's dictionary, ie none.
 
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