Probably the 331 (and 195) do not have authority to travel by rail on any lines yet?
Clearances won't change just because it's being dragged. They'll fit unless someone's screwed up massively but you don't drag £2m of new kit anywhere unless your paperwork is in order.Not even behind a loco?
Clearances won't change just because it's being dragged. They'll fit unless someone's screwed up massively but you don't drag £2m of new kit anywhere unless your paperwork is in order.
It could well be possible. Like you, I have no knowledge of the process- I just know that it's more complicated than one might think!I thought it may because of the train type approval for running - thinking systems, etc, not loading gauge. I have no idea how the approvals work, hence the question.
Would it not be possible to put it through a loading gauge then drag it? (Even though this is a hypothetical question given the access charges issue)
Probably the 331 (and 195) do not have authority to travel by rail on any lines yet?
Was it a whole unit or just one carriage?
That is a very diffiicult turn from Allerton Road into Church Road for such a load. At the other end of Church Road there is another roundabout were I met 08790 a few weeks ago on its transfer from Longsight to Edge Hill.Was just on the 19:50 rail replacement bus from Liverpool Lime Street to Hunts Cross and got held up by a car from a class 331 unit being delivered passing in front of us by the bus shelter at the end of Penny Lane.
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Just one carriage mate, that I could see at least, nothing else further down the road.Was it a whole unit or just one carriage?
Indeed, was thinking that, plus the high street at the other end by Picton Clock is very narrow. Then there is the fact it passes under the railway as it gets near Edge Hill.That is a very diffiicult turn from Allerton Road into Church Road for such a load. At the other end of Church Road there is another roundabout were I met 08790 a few weeks ago on its transfer from Longsight to Edge Hill.
Just one carriage mate, that I could see at least, nothing else further down the road.
I am far from an expert on such things to be honest. It would seem to make more sense to form the units up in one place and drag them by rail. I know there is a hell of a lot more to it than that though. Main thing is if you know Liverpool it would seem a hell of an odd route to take, and this is the area of LiverpoolI have spent most of my life. That said I'm sure there will be good reasons for clearances on roads I just wouldn't have a clue about. Then we come back to how can they know how much clearance a new train has in a densely packed suburb and not on the rails. Anyway, it was fun to see.That'll be why it was moved by road then, a lot easier and quicker to move a single vehicle by road than rail.
It is understood that 37884 has arrived at Edge Hill for connecting tests with the new carriages. Probably to furtherarrivals by rail.Probably the 331 (and 195) do not have authority to travel by rail on any lines yet?
And its not every day that someone can say thatThat's fantastic, reminds me of the day I overtook a tube train on the M1!
Cheers by the way mate. Not the best photos but the experience entertained me. Ha ha.Would I be correct in thinking that Class 195/331 units would in any case have to start their initial journey from the Spanish manufacturing plant by road to a country located within standard gauge Europe before they could be hauled by rail throughout to Liverpool?
Interesting pictures Mr Fowler, many thanks for posting!