Remaining GWR HST Diagrams

[Railperf]

Only 102mph through Slough on a single power car.

 

[Devonman2014]

Haha, looks like the 1830 tonight might be cancelled, with all the enthusiasts on the IET

Or a very crowded 18:03 to Plymouth !!!

 

[Railperf]

We have a green starter at Reading..will it be a faster stop?

 

[Railperf]

Could they send a spare power car to Cardiff and swap it there?

 

[cactustwirly]

Could they send a spare power car to Cardiff and swap it there?

Short answer no.
The spare powercars are at Laira, and swapping it at Cardiff would be a logistical nightmare

More likely to be swapped for an IET at Swansea

 

[Railperf]

Short answer no.
The spare powercars are at Laira, and swapping it at Cardiff would be a logistical nightmare

More likely to be swapped for an IET at Swansea

Noooooooooooooo

 

[jimm]

Haha, looks like the 1830 tonight might be cancelled, with all the enthusiasts on the IET

Have been told by someone within GWR that if there are problems with a set at the end of the afternoon that the 18.22 Hereford is the service most likely to be replaced by an IET - poorly HSTs and the gradient up to Great Malvern not being a happy combination, with the need to make a standing start from Malvern Link.

 

[Railperf]

Great. I am booked on that one too. Fantastic last day!

 

[cactustwirly]

Have been told by someone within GWR that if there are problems with a set at the end of the afternoon that the 18.22 Hereford is the service most likely to be replaced by an IET - poorly HSTs and the gradient up to Great Malvern not being a happy combination, with the need to make a standing start from Malvern Link.

Makes sense, I'd just assumed that GWR wouldn't sacrifice normal services in order to operate a special service (ie 1830)

 

[HamworthyGoods]

The diagrams will still stand, a set running around OEO isn’t exactly a new problem. The diagram it’s on running along the relatively flat mainline is the best place to keep it too.

 

[Railperf]

10.45 Swansea now 11 late - balancing speed on one power car on this section of track 100mph

 

[cactustwirly]

The diagrams will still stand, a set running around OEO isn’t exactly a new problem. The diagram it’s on running along the relatively flat mainline is the best place to keep it too.

The set's loosing time like a sieve, last time this happened the set was taken out of service.

 

[spark001uk]

Anyone on board 1B25 confirm if a fitter has in fact attended?

 

[Peter C]

The website www.rail-record.co.uk (where @trainmania100 got the diagrams for today from) says the following:

We’re hoping for 43002 and 43185 power cars to haul the final GWR class 43 train out of Paddington as these have been re liveried into their original BR branding – BR Blue/Yellow Large Logo (as pictured above), and Intercity Swallow Livery. It is hoped by many that a farewell rail tour excursion will be arranged to commemorate the departure of these trains.

However, 43002 and 43185 are not working the same diagram, and 43002 has failed this morning, so will this happen? As an optimist, I want to happen, but I can't think, with my limited knowledge of diagrams, how they would get these two power cars to work one train together. Any help appreciated.

-Peter

 

[Peter C]

The set's loosing time like a sieve, last time this happened the set was taken out of service.

It's amazing that this engine has been working for however long, has just come from Laira (I presume some sort of checkup; I don't know exactly), and on the last day it decides to go pear-shaped!

-Peter

 

[cactustwirly]

The website www.rail-record.co.uk (where @trainmania100 got the diagrams for today from) says the following:

However, 43002 and 43185 are not working the same diagram, and 43002 has failed this morning, so will this happen? As an optimist, I want to happen, but I can't think, with my limited knowledge of diagrams, how they would get these two power cars to work one train together. Any help appreciated.

-Peter

They won't be working together, but they were planned to be side by side at Paddington for the photo shoot

 

[F Great Eastern]

Not neccessarily diagrams, but 43198 has lost its 'Oxfordshire 2007' nameplates, and instead has 'Driver Stan Martin' and 'Driver Brian Cooper' namplates

That's excellent from GWR, since the locos that those were originally on have already departed.

Fitting tribute to two former staff that they've done this .

 

[richa2002]

Short answer no.
The spare powercars are at Laira, and swapping it at Cardiff would be a logistical nightmare

More likely to be swapped for an IET at Swansea

The set's loosing time like a sieve, last time this happened the set was taken out of service.

Your posts suggest you are rather pleased at the thought of the plan going wrong. Bizarre.

I'm sure they'd rather run it OEO then mess up the plan later. I would hardly say losing 6 minutes between Paddington & Swindon is "losing time like a seive".

 

[Peter C]

They won't be working together, but they were planned to be side by side at Paddington for the photo shoot

Oh OK. Thanks for clearing that one up. It would have been nice for GWR (or whoever organises this sort of thing) to put 002 and 185 on the same diagram.

-Peter

 

[Peter C]

May I ask, what does "OEO" mean? I've seen it used a couple of times here.
Thanks,

-Peter

 

[whg1070]

I'm on 1B25, which left Paddington six minutes late, and we've only lost five minutes since then. Seems to be performing pretty well on one power car, and I haven't seen a fitter.

 

[HamworthyGoods]

May I ask, what does "OEO" mean? I've seen it used a couple of times here.
Thanks,

-Peter

One Engine Only

 

[HamworthyGoods]

The set's loosing time like a sieve, last time this happened the set was taken out of service.

Last time wasn’t a specially planned last day, subtle difference.

 

[cactustwirly]

Your posts suggest you are rather pleased at the thought of the plan going wrong. Bizarre.

I'm sure they'd rather run it OEO then mess up the plan later. I would hardly say losing 6 minutes between Paddington & Swindon is "losing time like a seive".

Just being realistic, the last set I had OEO, lost 20 minutes and had to be taken out of service at Bristol.

 

[HamworthyGoods]

Just being realistic, the last set I had OEO, lost 20 minutes and had to be taken out of service at Bristol.

Being realistic GW will take a 20 minute hit. The turnaround at Swansea is sufficient to ensure it won’t be a late start on the return.

On a normal day you are right however the set will be taken out at the first possible opportunity.

 

[-Colly405-]

Just being realistic, the last set I had OEO, lost 20 minutes and had to be taken out of service at Bristol.

It's got 45 mins turnround at SWA, then about another hour at PAD before 1830, so hopefully should be ok

 

[Peter C]

One Engine Only

Thanks very much for that.

-Peter

 

[spark001uk]

Can it not be put on shore supply to charge at Swansea? Or would that take too long?

 

[TheLastMinute]

Pretty sure I seen a fitter in the cab of 43002 on departure from Swindon. Was still dead though.

 

[SteelWeelApeal]

It’s not going down without a fight! Obviously doesn’t like the thought of the national rail museum.