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Often a lot of boats insurance states that you should be tied up by darkness I do believe.

That's definitely a general requirement for most hire boats on the inland waterways but IMX it isn't usually a restriction for anyone owning their own boat, and certainly wouldn't be for any remaining commercial traffic.
 
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That's definitely a general requirement for most hire boats on the inland waterways but IMX it isn't usually a restriction for anyone owning their own boat, and certainly wouldn't be for any remaining commercial traffic.

What does IMX mean please?

Very little if any commerical traffic these days.

Also where is any boats commerical or pleasure going in the dark after Selby Toll Bridge as Cawood Bridge is only manned between fixed hours in summer and by request in winter and the same for Naburn locks I do belive, not 100% certain

A good book I have read was about Selby in the old days when it had its own Custom House due to the large amount of foreign ships arriveing and loading and un-loading without stopping at other ports in the Humber.

[PDF] Selby's Railway Stations - Selby Town Council
www.selbytowncouncil.gov.uk/index.php/download_file/.../322/‎CachedSimilar
Starting on the Bawtry Road bridge, either go down the steps ... Wistow and
Cawood and as a bay for locos and carriages ... Such manned facilities were
once ... day on their way between London and Scotland. ... open causing several
minutes of delay to train services. ... wagons to be handled at any one time, with
further.
Very interesting leaflet abbout Selby Station area.

It does show the old interlaced tracks back in the East Coast Mainline days
which went across the bridge. Also it says about the changes to the Hydraulics in 1974 and the lifting of the bridge operators cbain in the 1980,s .
 
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That's definitely a general requirement for most hire boats on the inland waterways but IMX it isn't usually a restriction for anyone owning their own boat, and certainly wouldn't be for any remaining commercial traffic.

What does IMX mean please?

Very little if any commerical traffic these days.

Also where is any boats commerical or pleasure going in the dark after Selby Toll Bridge as Cawood Bridge is only manned between fixed hours in summer and by request in winter and the same for Naburn locks I do belive, not 100% certain

A good book I have read was about Selby in the old days when it had its own Custom House due to the large amount of foreign ships arriveing and loading and un-loading without stopping at other ports in the Humber.

[PDF] Selby's Railway Stations - Selby Town Council
www.selbytowncouncil.gov.uk/index.php/download_file/.../322/‎CachedSimilar
Starting on the Bawtry Road bridge, either go down the steps ... Wistow and
Cawood and as a bay for locos and carriages ... Such manned facilities were
once ... day on their way between London and Scotland. ... open causing several
minutes of delay to train services. ... wagons to be handled at any one time, with
further.
Very interesting leaflet abbout Selby Station area.

It does show the old interlaced tracks back in the East Coast Mainline days
which went across the bridge. Also it says about the changes to the Hydraulics in 1974 and the lifting of the bridge operators cbain in the 1980,s .

Link doesn't appear to be working unfortunately.
 

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Historically, have London-Hull trains usually gone via Goole rather than Selby?

Do they today?
 

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Historically, have London-Hull trains usually gone via Goole rather than Selby?

Do they today?

I'm not sure historically but Hull Trains and East Coast both go via Selby on their usual route. During the engineering works they were diverting via Goole.
 

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Historically, have London-Hull trains usually gone via Goole rather than Selby?

Do they today?

Prior to the Selby diversion Hull-London services were indeed usually routed via Goole. On completion of the diversion, Selby was no longer served on the main ECML service and a decision was taken that Hull services would be routed that way.

What I'm not sure of is whether Goole received calls on these historic services, and so Selby was served in preference, or whether Goole was not a calling point.
 

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Prior to the Selby diversion Hull-London services were indeed usually routed via Goole. On completion of the diversion, Selby was no longer served on the main ECML service and a decision was taken that Hull services would be routed that way.

What I'm not sure of is whether Goole received calls on these historic services, and so Selby was served in preference, or whether Goole was not a calling point.

Hull to Kings Cross services used to call at Goole. However, at some time last century, it was discovered that work was required at Goole station. It seems that the operator of the Kings Cross trains was not prepared to help with funding so the regional operator only funded shorter platform work. I presume that East Coast's HST has 'grandfather rights' to stop at Goole, and Hull Train's class 180s will fit the platform anyway.
 

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Hull to Kings Cross services used to call at Goole. However, at some time last century, it was discovered that work was required at Goole station. It seems that the operator of the Kings Cross trains was not prepared to help with funding so the regional operator only funded shorter platform work. I presume that East Coast's HST has 'grandfather rights' to stop at Goole, and Hull Train's class 180s will fit the platform anyway.

I guess that platform work would have been at or around the time of the diversion?

I've no idea whether EC HSTs have grandfather rights, but they've certainly not been using them as they've been non stop through Goole in this recent period.
 

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Hull to Kings Cross services used to call at Goole. However, at some time last century, it was discovered that work was required at Goole station. It seems that the operator of the Kings Cross trains was not prepared to help with funding so the regional operator only funded shorter platform work. I presume that East Coast's HST has 'grandfather rights' to stop at Goole, and Hull Train's class 180s will fit the platform anyway.

You are right but as far as I recall the switch was not on completion of the ECML diversion in 1983 , it was later. Selby was left without a London services until there was a bridge hit on the river at Goole in the late 80s (or early 90s) that saw the daily Hull-Kings cross routed via Selby for months. At first it was a temporary measure while the Goole Swing bridge was repaired but loadings were good and it became the normal route. When Hull trains started they opted to serve Selby too.
 

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You are right but as far as I recall the switch was not on completion of the ECML diversion in 1983 , it was later. Selby was left without a London services until there was a bridge hit on the river at Goole in the late 80s (or early 90s) that saw the daily Hull-Kings cross routed via Selby for months. At first it was a temporary measure while the Goole Swing bridge was repaired but loadings were good and it became the normal route. When Hull trains started they opted to serve Selby too.

Think you might find Hull Trains started going via Howden and Selby before the Hull / London Hst started going that way, as after they removed the wooden extensions to the Goole Platforms the Hst could no longer stop and just ran non stop straight through Goole and later took the Selby route to compete with Hull Trains
 

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What's happened at the bridge this morning? Busses between hull and Selby after incident at 0632
Rail tour from hull had 12 minute wait at Gilberdyke before going via Goole so anyone waiting at Howden or Selby will of missed it
 

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Think you might find Hull Trains started going via Howden and Selby before the Hull / London Hst started going that way, as after they removed the wooden extensions to the Goole Platforms the Hst could no longer stop and just ran non stop straight through Goole and later took the Selby route to compete with Hull Trains

Yes, thanks for adding the above. I believe you are correct, the wooden extensions were rotting I think.
 
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