Single National Fares Plan?

[Paul Kelly]

Has anyone heard of the Single National Fares Plan or know what it is? I have just heard of it today, having noticed this job ad on the GB Railways website: https://jobs.gbrtt.co.uk/single-national-fares-plan-delivery-lead-124355.htm

The job ad in the link is advertising for someone who will establish a "delivery framework" for the "SNFP" and set up 4 separate industry working groups to enable it!

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Job specification looks like it's been liberally sprinkled with all the usual meaningless HR buzzwords.

 

[JB_B]

I guess it's possible that this has leaked out by accident (ahead of an official announcement?)

What little info is available doesn't inspire confidence.

Would there be any harm in generating a potemkin applicant to find out a little more

 

[mikeg]

To be fair I think it was coming, I mean now that the TOCs act more as concessions and the farebox is largely central. The devil will be in the detail. I'm not against fare reform and certainly not against a single plan but we have to watch out for the dead hand of the treasury along with those who may bring the old atoc mindset with them. Most other countries which have decent and comprehensible and affordable fares have just such a plan

 

[STINT47]

After reading the job description I'm left scratching my head as to what exactly the job involves and it's purpose.

It come across as one of those awful job adverts that are full of all of the right words without actually putting them in the right order to make any sense. If I went for an interview when it got to the "do you have any questions for us" stage I would be asking for a lot more clarity.

In my experience these sort of adverts are often put together by someone who doesn't really understand the job that's being advertised. Often because the employer hasn't yet decided how it will work but wants to recruit for when they're ready to go forward

 

[CyrusWuff]

Suspect it's mostly a project management role at this stage, and it will be down to the working groups to come up with the eventual plan.

 

[Paul Kelly]

Suspect it's mostly a project management role at this stage, and it will be down to the working groups to come up with the eventual plan.

I bet you're right, but I've just read the job ad again in detail and it continuously talks about delivering the plan, which to me strongly implies that it already exists - unless of course they're planning to make it up as they go along, which on second thoughts is perhaps quite likely....

 

[Nottingham59]

But wouldn't a job entitled "Single National Fares Plan Delivery Lead" mean leading the delivery of a Single National Fares Plan? And it's good to see that they expect all that to be done within a 12 month temporary contract. Great to see the GBR Transition Team is getting a move on.

Or maybe not.....

 

[JonathanH]

How is there going to be a 'Single National Fares Plan' when we have Oyster / Contactless in London (and the South East), and it hasn't yet been replicated in other areas?

 

[Horizon22]

But wouldn't a job entitled "Single National Fares Plan Delivery Lead" mean leading the delivery of a Single National Fares Plan? And it's good to see that they expect all that to be done within a 12 month temporary contract. Great to see the GBR Transition Team is getting a move on.

Or maybe not.....

I think people are looking too much into a job role here! There’s no shortage of railway (and other industries are often no better) jobs with uncertain terms. “Delivery” can mean a lot of things.

To me it sounds more like a senior project manager to deliver a plan, not necessarily involved in the execution.

 

[Haywain]

I think people are looking too much into a job role here! There’s no shortage of railway (and other industries are often no better) jobs with uncertain terms. “Delivery” can mean a lot of things.

To me it sounds more like a senior project manager to deliver a plan, not necessarily involved in the execution.

I would suggest that the first part - 'Single National Fares Plan' - might suggest a merger of all the different pricing manager roles rather than something more radical. But who knows...

 

[Joe Paxton]

I think people are looking too much into a job role here! There’s no shortage of railway (and other industries are often no better) jobs with uncertain terms. “Delivery” can mean a lot of things.

To me it sounds more like a senior project manager to deliver a plan, not necessarily involved in the execution.

I agree. Delivering i.e. coming up with a plan isn't the same as executing it i.e. making the plan turn into reality.

I would suggest that the first part - 'Single National Fares Plan' - might suggest a merger of all the different pricing manager roles rather than something more radical. But who knows...

Makes sense. I dare say that some of the more experienced pricing managers who becamse adept at working the system (for the benefit of their TOC) might be quite capable of re-working the system.

 

[Surreytraveller]

Sounds like they're going to dig out a Fares Manual from about thirty years ago, before all these operator specific tickets came in, triple the prices, and claim it as all their own work

 

[alistairlees]

Sounds like they're going to dig out a Fares Manual from about thirty years ago, before all these operator specific tickets came in, triple the prices, and claim it as all their own work

I’ll just give my copy of nfm64 to them.