Passengers? Or just you?I wonder if the BTP have realised that constantly badgering passengers with the SeeItSayItSortIt message is paradoxically deterring people from reporting incidents of concern?
Passengers? Or just you?I wonder if the BTP have realised that constantly badgering passengers with the SeeItSayItSortIt message is paradoxically deterring people from reporting incidents of concern?
All passengers. If you've started to think that only you can hear the on train announcements then you're probably cracking up!Passengers? Or just you?
It wouldn't deter me, so that statement on behalf of everybody isn't true. You really shouldn't go around presuming that everybody has the same issues as you.All passengers. If you've started to think that only you can hear the on train announcements then you're probably cracking up!
We can all hear the announcements. Only you seem to be using them as an excuse for not reporting something though.All passengers. If you've started to think that only you can hear the on train announcements then you're probably cracking up!
You think that when posters on this thread hear "if you see something..." they think to themselves "well I was going to report the man who was harassing that girl but I'm not going to now"?I refer the honourable gentlemen to the title of this thread and the majority of posters on it that support said opinion.
I was out and about on SWR last week. I must have heard the engineering works announcement about 20 times and yet I couldn't tell any of the affected places. In other news, apparently some of the lifts at Woking are defective.SWR guards on my morning train from Guildford to Waterloo have clearly been told they need to announce every upcoming departure from Woking for people who are changing trains to get to eg Weybridge or Walton. That's fine, it could be useful for people. But christ do they really need to go on for five minutes? Surely "change here for services to X from platform Y at ZZ:ZZ", not a full station-by-station announcement, followed by an announcement of the status of every tube line, and then two minutes about delays on the Central line "the orange one on your tube maps" due to train shortages "until a new timetable in may?" (this is all seriously what was announced, I wish I was making it up! The Central line doesn't even stop at Waterloo!)
One announcer was holding the mic too close to their mouth so the announcements were very loud. And then he told us to remember to keep the noise down in the quiet coaches, that elicited a laugh from most of the passengers!
Some of these announcements are a good idea, but badly executed imo.
If it's not an emergency then I'm not interested. I've long since learned that complaining to various authorities about things is completely pointless.Because 999 is for emergencies, not for situations you might be a little bit concerned about.
It’s a train. It’s staffed.Because 999 is for emergencies, not for situations you might be a little bit concerned about.
You speak only for yourself. We are free to differ.It’s a train. It’s staffed.
We don’t need a number for things we’re a little bit concerned about.
Absolutely. Furthermore, if the BTP have so little to do that they have to repeatedly beg people to text them for the most trivial of reasons, you have to wonder whether it's time their numbers were cut or maybe if the BTP were even phased out altogether?It’s a train. It’s staffed.
We don’t need a number for things we’re a little bit concerned about.
I beg to differ. I don't think it's particularly sensible pulling the pass-com and bothering the driver on my local line (DOO) just because of, for instance, some drunks causing a nuisance.It’s a train. It’s staffed.
We don’t need a number for things we’re a little bit concerned about.
What crime have these "drunks causing a nuisance" committed? Just put your headphones on and mind your own business!I beg to differ. I don't think it's particularly sensible pulling the pass-com and bothering the driver on my local line (DOO) just because of, for instance, some drunks causing a nuisance.
So they canI beg to differ. I don't think it's particularly sensible pulling the pass-com and bothering the driver on my local line (DOO) just because of, for instance, some drunks causing a nuisance.
I do think there is a difference psychologically about how unsafe different types of passengers and behaviour make people feel. I've been on trains with a table full of women drinking wine and being noisy, but clearly of no harm to anyone. That is very different to a woman travelling alone, in a carriage with a group of men drinking beer, swearing loudly and making suggestive comments.What crime have these "drunks causing a nuisance" committed? Just put your headphones on and mind your own business!
I agree with you. Whatever one makes of when 61016 should be used, if it being promoted as the contact route to BTP then it should be freely availableI tried to use 61016 the other day, the text failed and I got a notification from my operator (Smarty) that it was a premium number not covered in my plan, and that I would need to deposit a minimum of £5 to be granted access to it.
The BTP need to set up a normal number.
I tried to use 61016 the other day, the text failed and I got a notification from my operator (Smarty) that it was a premium number not covered in my plan, and that I would need to deposit a minimum of £5 to be granted access to it.
The BTP need to set up a normal number.
that is your own interpretation. I certainly don't feel that. I have, however, used the text number to report anti social behaviour on trains and seen a response ( some of the time!)
The point is that many text packages do not include premium numbers such as this. I do not think it is unreasonable that, if BTP want the public to use this route, then it should bear the cost.It’s been previously explained that there would then be the thorny question of who will pay the fees charged by mobile networks. In any case, surely the majority of people nowadays have texts included in their plans?
Perhaps in time they will move to a WhatsApp based service which should eliminate the problem.
I have texts included in my plans, to normal numbers. Not to shortcodes.It’s been previously explained that there would then be the thorny question of who will pay the fees charged by mobile networks. In any case, surely the majority of people nowadays have texts included in their plans?
I would not be supportive of a move to a platform controlled by Meta (or any of the similar tech giants whose main income stream is serving you advertising).Perhaps in time they will move to a WhatsApp based service which should eliminate the problem.
Ofcom research suggests conventional texting is very much in the minority compared to online platforms. Of those platforms What's App is by far the most popular:Despite What's App being used by a significant number of people, fewer use it than use texting.
Depends who you are with. I pay a fixed amount a month rather than a variable bill, so if I want to do anything chargeable like premium numbers I have to add credit to my account. I never use premium services so I never add money, so I couldn't "say it" either. It should be a free numberMy provider sends the texts fine and charges 10p without drama