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Sony - The Worst Earphones Ever Manufactured ?

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I've been through a lot of earphones over the last twenty years.

My favourites were JVC Marshmellow. They were very good, so needless to say, they were discontinued.

I've tried the one with the very thick rubber wire - supposefly to stop it tangling up (If only someone had manufactured one with adequate welding, that would be a really good USP).

Well, I've had Sony's for the past year because the sound quality was good. But the last time they failed was a bit too soon from buying from last time. This was two weeks ago, so I was in a bit of a hurry and needed to buy some new ones.

Bought the new ones as the shop had a limited range and I knew that I liked the sound.

But here I am, two weeks later, and the new Sony earphones have now broken with sound in only one speaker.

Sony are supposed to have some element of quality. However, because they are crap I will be boycotting all of their products from now on.

Sony = worthless crap.
 
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I was thinking of getting Sony 1000xm5 's which are really expensive noise cancelling headphones. Should I go for Bose ones instead? This is for completely blocking out noise while on train journeys
 

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I was thinking of getting Sony 1000xm5 's which are really expensive noise cancelling headphones. Should I go for Bose ones instead? This is for completely blocking out noise while on train journeys

Mine were cheap. But the problem wasn't in the earphone itself, it was in the welding/connection area, which makes me think whatever the quality of the design, the manufacture quality in terms of soldering etc is sub-standard.

Found a box in my bag called "Sony for smartphones).
 

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I was thinking of getting Sony 1000xm5 's which are really expensive noise cancelling headphones. Should I go for Bose ones instead? This is for completely blocking out noise while on train journeys
My daughter has some Sony XM3s from a couple of years ago. The noise cancellation is really impressive.
The What HiFi comparison of the Sony WH-1000XM5 and Bose 700 headphones says
... the XM5 among the best noise-cancellers out there, especially when it comes to constant noise like train or plane engines

Personally, I like Soundmagic E10 ear buds which are ~ £32 or so. I use them for podcasts. They are sound good, don't leak much sound, and the cables don't tangle much. One pair of E10 ear buds got a broken connection on one side after a year with lots of use.

I'm using some E11 ones at the moment, which are similar, but the cables tangle more easily. I have tried various cheaper ear buds and found them less durable.

I prefer wired ear buds to Bluetooth ones, to have one less thing to charge.
 
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Since 2018 I've relied on Bose QC35-iis which are bulletproof and so comfortable I've often forgotten I'm wearing the damned things. Stonking battery life and the noise cancelling has been pretty faultless. Perfect for long flights as they also retain a wired capability. That makes them good for gaming too.

In an effort to reduce what I'm carting around on shorter trips I've started using Pixel Pro Buds. Very good but noise reduction not so great and they appear to be made of teflon..lost count of how many times a bud has slipped out of my hand and fallen to the floor. Sooner or later I'll lose one.
 
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I find that you can have the sound quality, but the manufacture quality is poor, or you can have poor sound quality.

I'm sick of throwing good money after rubbish, so won't be buying them again.
 

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I find that you can have the sound quality, but the manufacture quality is poor, or you can have poor sound quality.

I'm sick of throwing good money after rubbish, so won't be buying them again.
I spent £10-15 on successive sets of entry level Sony earbuds for years. I listened mostly to spoken word, the sound quality and bass was good enough, noise isolating silicone cups worked and they were comfortable in my ear. I realised they were breaking after a few months of daily use, which I accepted because they were cheap. After this happened sooner than usual I switched to Sennheiser CX300 II, which are about £25 or so and last a couple of years of intensive use. Eventually the sound goes in one ear after I've tugged it too hard but it's usually not the earphones' fault.

My premium headphones for flights and long journeys are Bose QC35 II as well. Noise cancelling is exceptional, not overly bassy and do leak a bit of sound, but happy with them.
 

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I spent £10-15 on successive sets of entry level Sony earbuds for years. I listened mostly to spoken word, the sound quality and bass was good enough, noise isolating silicone cups worked and they were comfortable in my ear. I realised they were breaking after a few months of daily use, which I accepted because they were cheap. After this happened sooner than usual I switched to Sennheiser CX300 II, which are about £25 or so and last a couple of years of intensive use. Eventually the sound goes in one ear after I've tugged it too hard but it's usually not the earphones' fault.

My premium headphones for flights and long journeys are Bose QC35 II as well. Noise cancelling is exceptional, not overly bassy and do leak a bit of sound, but happy with them.

I will look into those.

Like you, I accepted the Sony's when they were lasting six months or so, but a couple of weeks just isn't good enough.

The wire and connections are just too flimsy.
 

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Personally I wouldn't touch bose with a bargepole but I can't stand their BS marketing of a lot of their products, Better Other Sound Equipment, or no highs no lows must be Bose.
Decent earphones do cost a bit, best advice for wired earphones is to get a pair where the cable can be replaced, generally that means the proper IEM style in ears but that's no issue. Personally I would have a look on Thomann, they have a good range of decent stuff, good filtering options for searching and reviews are only allowed from people who have purchased the item in question so they are more believable. Don't worry that the site/company is German, they're not your average family run music shop and all prices include all taxes and customs fees, there's just a delivery fee for orders under the tax/customs rule change point. Plus you can always give them a bell (on a UK number!) if you need more advice.
www.thomann.de/gb/headphones.html
Personally I but whatever branded earphones are on offer in Tesco, max £10 as I know i'll lose or break them, I do have a more expensive £50 pair of AKG headphones for studio use but in reality even they are not that expensive.
 

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I was thinking of getting Sony 1000xm5 's which are really expensive noise cancelling headphones. Should I go for Bose ones instead? This is for completely blocking out noise while on train journeys

Don't buy BOSE - usually overpriced. BOSE = Buy Other Sound Equipment.
 

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I will look into those.
Another vote for the CX300's. I bought a few different pairs as I used them for years (a set would last around two years of nearly daily usage) until my most recent phone was one of the many that ditched a proper headphone jack :rolleyes:
 

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I was initially cynical about Bluetooth ones, but since the advent of the charger case type I've moved over (to Airpods, as it happens, but mainly because they don't have the rubber gaskets which I just can't get on with). This has meant one pair has now lasted me well over 2 years with no sign of any failures, as the most common point of failure, the wires, is no longer there.

Definitely converted.
 

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Have you tried studio monitor headphones? I bought about ten years ago now some Beyerdynamic DT250s designed for studio and OB use. They're the 80ohm model so some feebler equipment struggles to give enough volume so just don't get the 250ohm models .
Exceptional sound quality and still going strong, I bought a third party cable which has thus far been more reliable than the official cable. Beware it uses a proprietary connector on one end . The only thing I will say about the sound is it's very warts and all, if you like everything to sound good rather than faithful reproduction of the audio, they may not be for you.

Oh and needless to say you can forget Bluetooth etc.
 

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My daughter has some Sony XM3s from a couple of years ago. The noise cancellation is really impressive.
The What HiFi comparison of the Sony WH-1000XM5 and Bose 700 headphones says
I have those. Tremendous cancellation. Sound is good although you could do better for the same $$$ if you don't need noise-cancellation.

The headband of mine partly broke after about three-years of pretty intense use. However, I fixed it with some black electrical tape and six months on they are still fine (and I'm not very practical1)

Another vote for better welding in general....
 

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I tried a pair of cancelling ones recently and it felt like my head was being crushed, like when you have an ear infection that blocks your ears. An interesting psychological response, that - always thought it was a physical sensation when you had blocked ears but clearly not!
 

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Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. I will digest and see what's available in my price range.
 

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Beyerdynamic DT250s designed for studio and OB use
I used to work in local radio and the DT100s were the "workhorse" headphone for both the BBC and ILR. Not astounding sound quality (the later DT150s were better and I assume the 250s are better again), but the basic structure was rock solid and everything (and I mean everything) was repairable or replaceable - at a price. Canford was the go-to place for spares, I dare say there are other places online these days. If your 80 Ohm transducers become a problem, a pair of 250 Ohm transducers will set you back about £80 I think (considerably cheaper than a new pair of headphones), and aren't that difficult to replace. I think the BBC now uses DT770 headphones which are likely to be just as repairable and comparatively cheap in their non-limited forms.

I think the OP was asking about "earphones", of which I have very little experience (the children seem perfectly happy with the cheap AV:LINK ones they had for Christmas a couple of years ago - though they prefer headphones for most listening), but on the subject of headphones, one of my kids has bought some JBL Tune 710 headphones and is very pleased with them. They don't have active noise cancellation as far as I'm aware, but apparently they are good at cutting out external sounds anyway, and they have a 3.5mm jack socket so you can use them in wired mode even if the battery is flat. The sound is a bit bassy perhaps, but not overly so.

Personally I wouldn't normally rush to recommend "consumer" JBL kit because it's a "trendy" brand (a category into which I also put brands such as Beats) and "trendy" brands tend to have - as well as a price tag mainly based on their strengths as fashion items - not to put too fine a point on it a "non-flat" frequency response to cater for those with a bass fetish and shot hearing, but some of their professional kit is very good (apart from having imperial screw threads) and I have long been a big fan of their Control-1 loudspeakers especially in "pro" variant which has larger transducers and greater continuous power rating in (very nearly) the same size box because they are small, robust, relatively inexpensive and actually sound very good. You might not want them as the stereo pair on your Linn turntable, but they are fantastic as surround speakers in multichannel setups, kitchen speakers, classroom speakers, speakers you are going to throw around, that sort of thing. However, the awful ball-mount system breaks at the slightest excuse (they used to have a much better mount) and I've recently lost several (four out of the 20+ I use regularly) to "suspension rot" where the foam suspension around the LF cones has crumbled to dust; it's not economic to replace the transducers and a suspension repair is both very fiddly and unlikely to return them to "as new" condition. To be fair, those speakers were all around 18 years old, but I've never had this with any other brand; I've also lost four (out of eight) Control-5 speakers to the same issue and they were much younger - no more than 10 years old.

Back on topic, I quite like most Sennheiser kit. They do now have a "trendy" (i.e. fashionable, expensive) range which could be a problem and I've found the ear pad coverings tend to wear very quickly on their cheaper headphones, but their pro gear is excellent on the whole.

And don't get me started on Bose. The whole idea of Bose kit is that you can get away with unsuitable transducers if you "tune" the cabinets (particularly their "labyrinth" bass ports) and run the speakers from amplifiers with incredibly esoteric EQ, either that or pair tiny "speakers" with a bass bin (typical for their surround sound systems and portable PA). I first met Bose PA speakers in my radio days. The 802 used small transducers (PDF), an elaborately-designed cabinet and a "system controller" for the EQ. Yes, they were quite robust, but to my 25 year-old ears they sounded little better than Tannoy horns. To be fair, Bose isn't unique in using these techniques, but certainly in the domestic setting they were a pioneer with systems such as the Wave Radio which used 2½" drivers paired with a labyrinth and claimed room-filling full-range sound.

I could bore all day on the dubious claims made by some fashion brands...
 

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I'm one of those people that has never found a pair of earphones that stay in my ears.
 

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But here I am, two weeks later, and the new Sony earphones have now broken with sound in only one speaker.

Take them back to the retailer - they should last years, but two weeks is clearly faulty without question and you will get a full refund. Under the law they have to refund fully if returned for a fault in the first 30 days [and there is protection after then].

I'll have to dig out the package.

It was the same as the last one and it was crap, I remember that.

If you didn't like them, why buy them a second time?
 

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Lots of dislike for Bose on here. I've been buying their headphones and in-ear headphones since their first Noice Cancelling sets came out. They generally perform well in the Which? Tests, and I've been happy with them, though I did have a small pair of folding Sennheiser NCs that were brilliant for business trips.

I'm now also converted to earbuds after initial scepticism, again, Bose.

That said, my motto with Bose is "Buy Obsolete Stock Only": great deals can be had on the outgoing models with a 50% discount and more direct or via Amazon.
 

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Lots of dislike for Bose on here. I've been buying their headphones and in-ear headphones since their first Noice Cancelling sets came out.

I've had a few sets of their in-ear noise-cancellers. They're pretty good for noise cancellation which was my main criterion (I used to fly a LOT).

Other BOSE stuff is adequate but I wouldn't chose them over "proper hifi"
 

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I've had a few sets of their in-ear noise-cancellers. They're pretty good for noise cancellation which was my main criterion (I used to fly a LOT).

Other BOSE stuff is adequate but I wouldn't chose them over "proper hifi"

Agree - I only use them when travelling/walking and wouldn't entertain their speakers or other products.
 

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Sony's earphones are crud in my experience. Having swerved them for years due to quick degradation, I made the mistake of buying a pair but three weeks ago and already they are virtually silent in the right ear. They have been cared for too, not squashed or buffeted about. The sound quality was decent, without the excessive bass I find other cheapo earphones tend to have, but Sony's generally are far too quiet as well.

The wireless JVC ones I bought for home use for the princely sum of £15 are much better. Louder than Sony's, albeit heavier on the bass, but otherwise great. Being without wires for the first time is pleasantly novel.
 

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I bought a pair of Sony MDR-XB55AP (had to fetch the box to get the name) for £20 and the silicone is thick that it irritated my ears and the earphone itself is big so uncomfortable after listening on longer journeys. I returned to a pair of Bang and Olufsen Beoplay H3s (not the LG ones, proper B&O) which are lighter, softer and have a firmer bass. They are discontinued and hard to find (especially at a good price) so I am looking after them. B&O went wireless from 2017 onwards. I also had a pair of Bose headphones a while back but sold them for earphones since I never liked having thick pads over my ears.

Reliability wise Apple is the worst. Adapter cables, earphones, everything they do is the cheapest, most poorly made and never lasts longer than a year in my experience (and I do the best to look after my things).

I never go wireless, I don't like having to think about charging one more thing, and with 5 hours battery life for base model wireless headphones plus the fact they are easier to lose makes them a no go for me.
 
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