K.o.R
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Electric Sprinter, so a) electric and b) not a Pacer!
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Signal_Box
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Rail magazine around 2000/01ish
Much more sprightly especially going uphill, qutie a good idea to be fair.
Yes, they were going to be spare after Crossrail had opened, which was planned for 2016 at the time, or thereabouts, so would have saved some of the upfront cost
anthony263
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If network rail had got electrification to Swansea on time abd budget we would have had 313/315s on Swanline to Swansea too
stressdoubt
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Yes one of them did - there are two old lines running through Creigiau. The one you are thinking of went onto Pontyclun via Rhiwsaeson and the other came up from Cadoxton via what is now the link road to Cardiff from J33 of the M4 to the station in Creigiau and then went onto Efail Isaf and Ton-Teg, crossing over the other line near Tyn-y-Coed woods. There have been lots of vague plans over the years and there was a survey done at one point but nothing concrete. Thoses houses will have to go if they want to re-instate the route unfortunately but really they should not have been built in the first place - very short sighted at the time.
Some serious work going on between Ty Glas and Birchgrove today. I don't know what the membrane they've put down is.
The line is supposed to be closed until Wednesday. (Despite TfW saying on posters and on Twitter that it was just Saturday - but that's OK because the information is there if you go digging on their web site, but not under "Changes to train services" because that would be too obvious).
The line is supposed to be closed until Wednesday. (Despite TfW saying on posters and on Twitter that it was just Saturday - but that's OK because the information is there if you go digging on their web site, but not under "Changes to train services" because that would be too obvious).
Markdvdman
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A BBC Article Regarding Cardiff Bay:
Railway: Cardiff Bay station to get more destinations
One of the UK's oldest big city railway stations with one direct destination is to get more stops.
www.bbc.co.uk
DelW
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FWIW, the membrane is likely to be a geotextile which allows water to pass through but blocks fine soil particles. That prevents fines from the subgrade from migrating upwards and contaminating the ballast, which needs to be kept clean and free-draining to work effectively. It's widely used when track is relaid.
Tomos y Tanc
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Yeah I noticed that. It's an incredibly ambitious timetable if they hope to have the whole tram system ready in five years.
CapitalStar378
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It definitely won't be if the pace of works is along the lines of the current Bay line upgrade
Markdvdman
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I was speaking to a guard on the train, and the 756s, he reckons will not be in use next week in the main. The guards have had no training on them. So that begs the question, where are the spare 150s coming from? Also, TFW said the 756s would be running except for a few 150s on the VoG line. So not a good start for the new timetable. Unless the guard is wrong - only relaying what he said!
I think they said they would be continuing to run 231s on the Rhymney Line.
BillStampy
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My only problem with that as of right now, the timetable change results in Rhymney trains running to Bridgend, which as of right now I'm almost certain they aren't cleared for. Which would result in swappings at (Cardiff supposedly) for every journey down to Bridgend. Barry isn't a problem as that's already cleared.
They will be using 150s between Bridgend and Rhymney, won't they?
BillStampy
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Just looked again, it does seem that it doesn't swap. They'd use 150s for the Bridgend and 231s for Barry whilst they wait for 756s
I'm pretty sure that's what they said, with perhaps an implication that some of the Barry services might also be 150s.
BillStampy
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Two tests are meant to run overnight (supposedly clearance runs for the 756s) to Aberdare and Caerphilly. (not sure why Aberdare, supposedly to be a side whilst we wait for 398s eventual appearance)
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
And that's supposing they run in the first place.
Realtime Trains | 5Q10 0034 Cardiff Canton Sidings to Aberdare | 01/06/2024
Real-time train running information for 5Q10 0034 departure from Cardiff Canton Sidings to Aberdare on 01/06/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
Realtime Trains | 5Q00 0100 Cardiff Canton Sidings to Caerphilly | 01/06/2024
Real-time train running information for 5Q00 0100 departure from Cardiff Canton Sidings to Caerphilly on 01/06/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
And that's supposing they run in the first place.
Last Hurrah
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Are they relaying the whole line to Coryton or just the section from Ty Glas to Birchgrove ?
It’s noticeable newly installed masts at Rhiwbina station are set well back, to allow a second track at a future date - repositioning the partially installed cable troughs nearer to the masts would then avoid redoing it at a future date
59CosG95
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Often-times used in conjunction with a stabilising "geogrid" laid over the top.
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Tumbleweed
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Always fascinated me why railway stock is moved by road - is it a safety thing?
Signal_Box
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Cheaper in most cases.
Tumbleweed
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I should have guessed!
Also less disruptive - stock movements would orobably often not be able to run at line speed.
Signal_Box
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The 398 delivery runs have been timed at 60mph train speeds, run in the small hours however.
I’d assume this particular unit isn’t passed for transit moves in network rail for some reason, I did read they (tfw) need to trial modified wheel profiles on the trams to enable on street running, maybe this one has modified tyres ?
StripeyNick
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The only ones delivered by rail have been those that were already in the UK.
I think the location of the factory in Spain makes it easier for them to come across by sea to Avonmouth. Also, given the access to the depot, any deliveries by rail would probably have to be in the early hours of the morning given the faffing around that's needed to shunt them
I see that since yesterday, and for the rest of this week, TfW have cancelled at least half of the direct morning peak Pontypridd to Cardiff Bay services. This means passengers using the Aberdare line to get to Llandaf, Cathays and Queen Street now face a choice of changing at Abercynon or Ponty (or anywhere down to Radyr really) and waiting between 15-20 minutes for the next service from Merthyr or staying on and going the long way round. Not much of an issue if going to Queen Street but this is a real hassle, especially if going to Llandaf. As far as I can tell there is no mention of this in the 'Planned Alterations' on the website and therefore many passengers aren't aware that their normal 5 minute change at Ponty isn't always going to be an option at the moment.
CapitalStar378
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Also a bit of an issue in you want to get to Cardiff Bay, are they running extra shuttles?
They've run one replacement shuttle yes, but more intriguingly they've run a special working Cardiff Central - Pontypridd and back described in RTT as ECS (empty coaching stock). More testing going on?