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jimbob185

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10972 SN18KTF has been repainted into the same base livery as the new Interconnect livery but is expected to be branded for Pronto. Pictures can be see in the comments section of this post in the Pronto’s group on Facebook
 
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liamf656

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10972 SN18KTF has been repainted into the same base livery as the new Interconnect livery but is expected to be branded for Pronto. Pictures can be see in the comments section of this post in the Pronto’s group on Facebook
Is there a way to share the photo to those that aren't on Facebook?
 

jimbob185

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In Hull, from September, most services are being increased.

Also registered via VOSA today are 2 new routes and 2 are extended, which can be viewed via this link, As bustimes now directly linka to VOSAs bus registrations:

New routes are


Services 8 & 10 is having route changes

The rest are all timetable increases (not sure what they're increasing to)

I suspect an increased PVR of around 15 to 20 extra buses needed with the timetable increases
Seems like if you the new timetables for Hull from 1st September can be now seen on bustimes now but would still take them as being unofficial until Stagecoach release them officially on there website even though the data used is taken from Stagecoach's open data source
 

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I notice the 30 from Horncastle to Lincoln is withdrawn by Stagecoach from September, presumably a new operator will be found for this one. It probably releases vehicles for services around Hull.
 

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I notice the 30 from Horncastle to Lincoln is withdrawn by Stagecoach from September, presumably a new operator will be found for this one. It probably releases vehicles for services around Hull.

P C Coaches already operate the off peak service on this route. Maybe they will take on the peak runs too. I imagine this is a contracted service.
 

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I notice the 30 from Horncastle to Lincoln is withdrawn by Stagecoach from September, presumably a new operator will be found for this one. It probably releases vehicles for services around Hull.

PC Coaches bus times registration shows amendments for their 30 from the 4th, its being renumbered to 10 but no sign of timetable changes (yet)

 

jimbob185

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I have heard that some Enviro 400s could be coming down from Scotland to join the East Midlands fleet


Update 21/08/24

Enviro 400s 19371, 19172, 19369, 19375 have moved to Hull depot from Stagecoach Bluebird
Saw ex Bluebird 19371 heading south over Queensferry Crossing yesterday afternoon and it continued towards the M9 and possible M8 after that. No idea where it was going but presumably not needed now Insch and Stonehaven have shut
4 of them heading to Hull
19371, 19172, 19369, 19375
https://www.facebook.com/groups/501450900039663/posts/2505684122949654/
 
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K13R0N

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Timetable changes for much of the region are on the Stagecoach website for early September. Shows the Hull uplifts, Pronto increased frequencies and the 53 between Grimsby and Lincoln is now hourly all day (except a gap leaving Lincoln at 4pm)
 

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It’s been good to see that recently the later evening services between Nottingham and Mansfield on the Pronto route have been restored. It’s been very inconvenient these last few years to have the main route between Nottingham and Mansfield finishing so early in the evening. There’s still no real improvement north of Mansfield to Chesterfield but perhaps that might be because it’s a cross border service from Nottinghamshire into Derbyshire.

I was quite surprised to see the frequency on the Pronto increased back to every 10 minutes during the day between Nottingham and Mansfield from the beginning of September. It may be needed on Saturdays but I’ve not noticed the buses that heavily loaded outside of peak times and would have thought that every 15 minutes was more than adequate off peak. I think the buses, with the £2 fare, both Pronto from Mansfield and TrentBarton’s Three’s from Sutton and Kirkby in Ashfield, may be picking up passengers who used to use the Robin Hood Line rail services. Since Covid the rail service has only been hourly and is not so attractive as it was when it was 2tph.
 

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It’s been good to see that recently the later evening services between Nottingham and Mansfield on the Pronto route have been restored. It’s been very inconvenient these last few years to have the main route between Nottingham and Mansfield finishing so early in the evening. There’s still no real improvement north of Mansfield to Chesterfield but perhaps that might be because it’s a cross border service from Nottinghamshire into Derbyshire.

I was quite surprised to see the frequency on the Pronto increased back to every 10 minutes during the day between Nottingham and Mansfield from the beginning of September. It may be needed on Saturdays but I’ve not noticed the buses that heavily loaded outside of peak times and would have thought that every 15 minutes was more than adequate off peak. I think the buses, with the £2 fare, both Pronto from Mansfield and TrentBarton’s Three’s from Sutton and Kirkby in Ashfield, may be picking up passengers who used to use the Robin Hood Line rail services. Since Covid the rail service has only been hourly and is not so attractive as it was when it was 2tph.
I have to agree regarding the Pronto, I am a regular user of it at various times of day and it's usually fairly quiet apart from Saturdays, every 10 minutes does seem really excessive but if it works then it works . The new 23:10 from Nottingham has been packed on a Saturday but is very quiet on any other day, on Tuesday I was the only one on it past Daybrook
 

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19377,19541,19542,19552 and 19558 have arrived today from Stagecoach Bluebird with at least 4 currently at Scunthorpe. 19172 has moved to Grimsby and 19369 and 19371 have moved to Gainsborough. I am unsure if 19375 has moved or if it still remains at Hull.
 

Zenneth101

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19377,19541,19542,19552 and 19558 have arrived today from Stagecoach Bluebird with at least 4 currently at Scunthorpe. 19172 has moved to Grimsby and 19369 and 19371 have moved to Gainsborough. I am unsure if 19375 has moved or if it still remains at Hull.
Im honestly shocked Stagecoach are still getting those after the 2 fires lately on that type of bus, its a lil risky aint it
 

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Why they go Scunthorpe first before hull
I don’t know but a theory that I heard from someone else was that as they are for all different depots in the East Midlands they took them somewhere more central to make onward movement easier
 
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Stagecoach East Midlands have been called to a public inquiry on October 15th;

Section 5.1 – Notice of Public Inquiries to be Held
Public Inquiry (90487) to be held at The Court Room (Cambridge), CB2 8BF, Eastern Traffic Area,
Eastbrook, Shaftesbury Road, Cambridge, on 15 October 2024 commencing at 10:00
PF0007038 SI
LINCOLNSHIRE ROAD CAR COMPANY LIMITED
Director(s): BRUCE DINGWALL, SAMUEL GREER, MATTHEW CRANWELL
WARNEFORD HOUSE, RUNCORN ROAD, LINCOLN, LN6 3QP
S17 - Consideration of disciplinary action under Section 17 (The Public Passenger Vehicles Act
1981)
S28 - Consideration of disciplinary action under Section 28 (The Transport Act 1985)
Sch.3 - Consideration of Transport Managers Repute under Schedule 3 (The Public Passenger
Vehicles Act 1981)
Section 5.2 – Decisions Taken at Public Inq
 
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CN12 AWU

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I have been informed the following are due to move to Hull from Nuneaton within the next 4 to 6 weeks

22781, 36331 & 36337

Can anyone confirm if this is genuine information

Apparently 22781 is coming as a extra due to vehicle shortage and needing smaller buses hence 36331/7 for service 16 & 61 as there baby E200's
 

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I have been informed the following are due to move to Hull from Nuneaton within the next 4 to 6 weeks

22781, 36331 & 36337

Can anyone confirm if this is genuine information

Apparently 22781 is coming as a extra due to vehicle shortage and needing smaller buses hence 36331/7 for service 16 & 61 as there baby E200's
Hope not , don’t need any more single deckers
 

CN12 AWU

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Hope not , don’t need any more single deckers
Tbh could do with them baby E200's for 16 & 61 especially for Sibelius Rd Estate and the nursing home on the 16 freeing up the bigger E200's to replace doubles on other 21/40 duties
 

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Tbh could do with them baby E200's for 16 & 61 especially for Sibelius Rd Estate and the nursing home on the 16 freeing up the bigger E200's to replace doubles on other 21/40 duties
All the E200s Hull have for local routes are all similar length as the Non-MMC variants are 10.7m and the MMC variants being 10.8m. The only longer E200s Hull have are the MMCs used on the 350 which are 11.8m.
 

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All the E200s Hull have for local routes are all similar length as the Non-MMC variants are 10.7m and the MMC variants being 10.8m. The only longer E200s Hull have are the MMCs used on the 350 which are 11.8m.
If you read above (post 83) I have been informed baby E200's 36331/7 are supposedly due to transfer to Hull for use on service 61 and 16 due to tight sections on routes

Also 22781 is meant to be joining them as a extra bus this is also so doubles can be used where needed
 

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If you read above (post 83) I have been informed baby E200's 36331/7 are supposedly due to transfer to Hull for use on service 61 and 16 due to tight sections on routes

Also 22781 is meant to be joining them as a extra bus this is also so doubles can be used where needed
Sorry I got a bit confused and I see what you are saying now as I was forgetting that 36331/7 are shorter than the E200s that Hull currently has and was only thinking what Hull currently has.
 

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47471, 47688 and 47735 have just appeared on Bustimes for Stagecoach East Midlands is this someone messing around or have these transferred to a East Midlands Depot?

Seems a odd move as East Midlands have no other Solos, I also wonder what these 3 have replaced

I suspect what ever replaced have moved in opposite direction?
 

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That's likely a genuine transfer, as 48172-4 have gone into service at Stroud.
Whatever they're for, East Midlands seem to have a need for minibuses, as they've also taken some ex-London 8.9/9.4m E200s in the past few weeks.
 

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