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May have missed this but is something wrong with the 73 registration Enviro 400s / have they been transferred out of Holbrook?

This time last year they formed the whole allocation on the 52, but lately they seem to be substituted by much older ones and even sometimes single deckers, which used to be extremely uncommon on that route (at least with Stagecoach: First seems more than happy putting Wright Streetlites at peak times on one of the busiest routes in the city and leaving passengers behind, but that's a different discussion... )
 
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May have missed this but is something wrong with the 73 registration Enviro 400s / have they been transferred out of Holbrook?

This time last year they formed the whole allocation on the 52, but lately they seem to be substituted by much older ones and even sometimes single deckers, which used to be extremely uncommon on that route (at least with Stagecoach: First seems more than happy putting Wright Streetlites at peak times on one of the busiest routes in the city and leaving passengers behind, but that's a different discussion... )
No they've not been transferred out, 4 on loan at Cheltenham races and one was damaged in a rtc
 

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May have missed this but is something wrong with the 73 registration Enviro 400s / have they been transferred out of Holbrook?

This time last year they formed the whole allocation on the 52, but lately they seem to be substituted by much older ones and even sometimes single deckers, which used to be extremely uncommon on that route (at least with Stagecoach: First seems more than happy putting Wright Streetlites at peak times on one of the busiest routes in the city and leaving passengers behind, but that's a different discussion... )

Reliability issues with the MX58 E400’s mean the MMC’s are spread about more. 10661 has been on loan from Barnsley all week & 4 are at Cheltenham for races.
 

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The first four of the ADL Enviro400EV electric double deckers appear to have launched into service this morning.
 

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It's been commented on the now closed Hulleys thread that Chesterfield will be taking on some of their routes when the company closes this week, do we know which routes these are?
 

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It's been commented on the now closed Hulleys thread that Chesterfield will be taking on some of their routes when the company closes this week, do we know which routes these are?
Do you have a source for that? That thread was closed precisely because there was wide speculation (nothing confirmed) that Hulley's was closing with Stagecoach taking on the routes
 

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It's been commented on the now closed Hulleys thread that Chesterfield will be taking on some of their routes when the company closes this week, do we know which routes these are?
Now reopened to say receivers appointed, Hulleys to cease operation from Wednesday evening, new operator/s from Thursday.
 

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They appear to be keeping time well! One has ventured as far as Barnsley already
Yes, 80146 is out on the X17 Matlock-Barnsley service until about 2100 then doing a round on the 91.

80155 on the 54 and 51

80159 on the 50/50a and 54

80172 on the 50/50a, 25 and 43.

(some of those Chesterfield buses have quite complex interworkings!)
 

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Yes, 80146 is out on the X17 Matlock-Barnsley service until about 2100 then doing a round on the 91.
That must be one of the longest X17 duties. Most seem to swap with a 42 or 44 in the afternoon. Must be confident of the range! (Or are planning to swap it out at some point later today)
 

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That must be one of the longest X17 duties. Most seem to swap with a 42 or 44 in the afternoon. Must be confident of the range! (Or are planning to swap it out at some point later today)
It's been swapped at Meadowhall for 19400 lol

(some of those Chesterfield buses have quite complex interworkings!)
All the 25/42/43/44/50/50a are on the C43xx graphs, they all interwork.
 

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It's been swapped at Meadowhall for 19400 lol
That has a feel of not being planned, especially as the trip lost about half an hour as a result. Also not the most obvious place to swap a bus out that passes the depot at various points during the day.
 

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Stagecoach Yorkshire are to take on the Hulleys 63 service between Chesterfield and Matlock. Details below:
We're pleased to say that we have found new operators for the seven bus services that Hulleys ran for us.
These will all start on Thursday 27 March and run to the previous timetables.
The new operators are:
• The 110/111 - to be run by Ashbourne Community Transport.
• 172,173,178 - to be run by Andrew's of Tideswell.
• 63 - to be run by Stagecoach Yorkshire.
• 257 - to be run by Linburg Coach Travel.
We put the services out to tender following poor performance by Hulleys, who announced this week that they were to cease trading with effect from Wednesday 26 March.
Hulleys also ran a number of commercial services. The council doesn't have a formal role in finding new operators for these services as they are privately operated and run, and have to be registered with the Traffic Commissioner. The council will support residents in finding alternative travel options in the meantime, but hopes these services can be picked up soon by new operators.
More info: https://www.derbyshire.gov.uk/counc...-operators-to-take-on-7-supported-routes.aspx
 

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Stagecoach officially confirming they're running the 63 and 170. Helpfully no timetable for the 170 is provided.

High Peak have also registered the 170.

Stagecoach to Take Over Services from Hulley's​


Stagecoach will be taking over two services following Hulley’s of Baslow closure
With the closure of Hulley’s of Baslow, who announced they will cease trading after service on Wednesday 26 March, we’ve stepped in to take over two important services to ensure our customers stay connected.
Service 63 between Chesterfield and Matlock is being run under contract to Derbyshire County Council and we’ve taken the decision to run a slightly adjusted service 170 from Chesterfield to Bakewell to support the local area.
We’ll provide an hourly daytime service 170 which will run daily linking Chesterfield Rail Station, New Beetwell Street, Baslow and Chatsworth to Bakewell. School journeys will also be catered for with one journey each way diverting to serve Holymoorside and extending to/from Lady Manners School.
Please see the 170 timetable here.
Service 63 will run exactly as the current timetable.

Service 170 will start on Wednesday 26th March and service 63 will start from Thursday 27th March.
Our dedicated teams are working hard to run these extra services at short notice and support customers across Derbyshire as much as we can.
We also want to help those affected by this change. If you’re impacted, we’re actively recruiting to expand our team and will do what we can to assist you during this time.
 

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Unless they registered it to start tomorrow, or are able to submit another short notice registration I'm not sure that is possible?

I guess they could run it without charging fares maybe? Similar to what happened with the X38.
 

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Clearly its been a fast moving couple of days and the dust is a long way off settling yet with quite a lot still up in the air.

We'd been working on contingencies for this day for some time and our proposals had been discussed with the appropriate authorities but you don't know it will happen, nor the manner it happens, until it actually happens. We're in a good position for drivers and vehicles with a surplus of both but there is a limit as to what any operator will be able to sensibly commit to and we have committed to run what we think we can sensibly deliver at this stage with the option to do more if required by calling in additional resources elsewhere.

We have registered a version of the 170 with short notice support from Derbyshire CC to start from tomorrow. All journeys provided commercially, including the Sunday daytime timetable.

The 63 is registered to start from Thursday but given this evenings events we will try to operate the full service tomorrow without fares for Wednesday, fares charged from Thursday.

A number of Hulleys drivers are joining our Chesterfield team and the door is open for more to apply. We have around a dozen vacancies over the coming months with various other planned uplifts, including the return of Peak Sightseer for its third season. We have a very healthy pipeline of new drivers and have generally never struggled to recruit at Chesterfield but we'll never turn away good quality applications from pcv drivers, particularly with such a short notice uplift in work. In the meantime drivers from our other depots will be enjoying the delightful change of scenery for a short period.

We had a discussion with the owner of a number of the ex-Hulleys vehicles but we can resource the modest uplift in vehicles from our own reserve pool.

It is incredibly sad to see the end of a very well respected and long serving independent bus company and I wish all those involved well for the future, many of whom have either worked for us or alongside us over the past few decades.
 

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Clearly its been a fast moving couple of days and the dust is a long way off settling yet with quite a lot still up in the air.

We'd been working on contingencies for this day for some time and our proposals had been discussed with the appropriate authorities but you don't know it will happen, nor the manner it happens, until it actually happens. We're in a good position for drivers and vehicles with a surplus of both but there is a limit as to what any operator will be able to sensibly commit to and we have committed to run what we think we can sensibly deliver at this stage with the option to do more if required by calling in additional resources elsewhere.

We have registered a version of the 170 with short notice support from Derbyshire CC to start from tomorrow. All journeys provided commercially, including the Sunday daytime timetable.

The 63 is registered to start from Thursday but given this evenings events we will try to operate the full service tomorrow without fares for Wednesday, fares charged from Thursday.

A number of Hulleys drivers are joining our Chesterfield team and the door is open for more to apply. We have around a dozen vacancies over the coming months with various other planned uplifts, including the return of Peak Sightseer for its third season. We have a very healthy pipeline of new drivers and have generally never struggled to recruit at Chesterfield but we'll never turn away good quality applications from pcv drivers, particularly with such a short notice uplift in work. In the meantime drivers from our other depots will be enjoying the delightful change of scenery for a short period.

We had a discussion with the owner of a number of the ex-Hulleys vehicles but we can resource the modest uplift in vehicles from our own reserve pool.

It is incredibly sad to see the end of a very well respected and long serving independent bus company and I wish all those involved well for the future, many of whom have either worked for us or alongside us over the past few decades.
Thank you for a well written, factual update on the current situation. It's good to see everybody try to pull together when such events occur.
 

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17 ADL E400EV’s out today, 2 not tracking yet. A few changeovers down to driver familiarity but otherwise a very smooth introduction to service like their Chinese cousins.

170 not tracking yet too but two 15xxx Scania’s out. The files required for successful tracking take up to a week to flow through so should be sorted by next Tuesday/Wednesday if not sooner.

A very successful first day on the 63 and 170. A bit of confusion first thing when an ex-Hulleys now Andrew’s bus appeared on the 63 for a journey but that appears to have been enthusiasm on their part to cover the journey given the demise of Hulleys a day earlier than expected and not realising we were starting a day early. Commendable on their part.

Open toppers from South West are for Peak Sightseer 2025 season, 4 good ones to be made of the 5 acquired.
 

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The first 170 was a position trip for the x17 as well electric as well bakewell them went on to x17 unless it was a see electric can do a full day on a 170
 

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The first 170 was a position trip for the x17 as well electric as well bakewell them went on to x17 unless it was a see electric can do a full day on a 170
What?

edit: I've just checked the tracking and it looks like the wrong trip code was entered into 80155's ticket machine at 10:55 this morning.
 

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What?

edit: I've just checked the tracking and it looks like the wrong trip code was entered into 80155's ticket machine at 10:55 this morning.
Exactly, and that's why people should always interrogate bustimes with a bit of common sense.

A single journey on the 170 appears without a return leg.... hmmm? Oh, and it didn't physically track....hmmm?

Perhaps have a check at the 170 boards in total and see what operated the 0726 ex Bakewell...hmmm? It was 15691, and quelle surprise, it also operated the 0645 ex Chesterfield, and tracked on both journeys as such.
 

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Fare changes to Gold Tickets are coming on 5 April:
Gold DayRider (on bus/app)
Adult - £10.50

Young Person - £6.20

Group (5 people any age) - £23.00



Gold Flexi 5 (on app only)
Adult - £42.00



Gold 7 Day MegaRider (on bus/app)
Adult - £35.00



Gold 28 Day/Xtra MegaRider (online)
Adult - £125.00

Tickets still look like good value, considering a single fare of £3 (£6 return), especially for regular commuters.
 

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