Storm Babet disruption - Saturday 21/10

[175001]

Conwy Valley Line shut today. Which is interesting as we had no problem on the branch on the last train last night..

 

[AlastairFraser]

I can confirm the Buxton line is back up and running for anyone wanting to head down this way! A testament to the remarkable skills of NR in getting it back up and running in a matter of hours!

 

[Falcon1200]

Neilston branch open this morning also.

 

[voyagerdude220]

DO NOT TRAVEL WARNING 21 October 2023 Due to severe disruption across the CrossCountry network today caused by flooding passengers are advised NOT to travel today unless absolutely essential. Passengers may use their tickets for travel tomorrow.​

It looks like Birmingham to Bristol is still flooded at the moment. It doesn't look good I'm afraid.

Edit: Having said that- their "Journey Check" page only states disruption expected until 09:00 today..

 

[1867Blue]

Dove holes tunnel in the Peak District was called yesterday. Anybody know how to find out if it’s still closed?

 

[Killingworth]

Hope Valley, Sheffield-Manchester, seems to be running but EMR and TPE disrupted outside the valley. Northern running, including one 6 car 195, but looks challenging today for users and operators.

 

[Bald Rick]

I keep seeing things about no Avanti services north of Preston - and there are some cancellations, but then theres also 1S34 just heading to Glasgow through Wishaw…

 

[sprinterguy]

I keep seeing things about no Avanti services north of Preston - and there are some cancellations, but then theres also 1S34 just heading to Glasgow through Wishaw…

Noting my previous comments in the other now-closed thread, northbound WCML services through Carlisle, both Avanti and Transpennine, have been running largely to schedule since the start of service this morning.

The first few southbound Avanti services from Glasgow and Edinburgh have been cancelled, though. Presumably insufficient stock finishing at the North end of the route yesterday.

 

[jhy44]

DO NOT TRAVEL WARNING 21 October 2023 Due to severe disruption across the CrossCountry network today caused by flooding passengers are advised NOT to travel today unless absolutely essential. Passengers may use their tickets for travel tomorrow.​

It looks like Birmingham to Bristol is still flooded at the moment. It doesn't look good I'm afraid.

Edit: Having said that- their "Journey Check" page only states disruption expected until 09:00 today..

Disruption certainly hasn't ended at 09:00.

It looks like there is line flooding somewhere around here (Bromsgrove, but unsure exactly where), as Worcester - Droitwich - Kidderminster services are still running, as are the Redditch - Birmingham services. Nothing currently operating between Barnt Green, Bromsgrove and Droitwich/W Parkway.

There is one rogue 09:55 Shrub Hill - Bromsgrove - Bham showing as running still but that must be an error.

Unsurprising given the incredible amount of rain we had here yesterday and the resulting flooding in nearby Cleobury which sadly took someone's life.

 

[D6130]

Dove holes tunnel in the Peak District was called yesterday. Anybody know how to find out if it’s still closed?

Probably not, as it's on the freight-only line.

 

[Martin_1981]

DO NOT TRAVEL WARNING 21 October 2023 Due to severe disruption across the CrossCountry network today caused by flooding passengers are advised NOT to travel today unless absolutely essential. Passengers may use their tickets for travel tomorrow.​

It looks like Birmingham to Bristol is still flooded at the moment. It doesn't look good I'm afraid.

Edit: Having said that- their "Journey Check" page only states disruption expected until 09:00 today..

My mum is travelling from Leicester to Exeter, now going via Reading and changing there.

 

[Snow1964]

DO NOT TRAVEL WARNING 21 October 2023 Due to severe disruption across the CrossCountry network today caused by flooding passengers are advised NOT to travel today unless absolutely essential. Passengers may use their tickets for travel tomorrow.​

It looks like Birmingham to Bristol is still flooded at the moment. It doesn't look good I'm afraid.

Edit: Having said that- their "Journey Check" page only states disruption expected until 09:00 today..

The annoying thing is there are virtually no problems south of Banbury or Bristol Parkway. And in some cases the XC services fill gaps in the timetable, so not clear (to a passenger) why problem miles away cannot stop services operating in South and South West

And does that message mean tomorrows timetable will be full of double length trains to carry both those booked Saturday, and those booked Sunday. Any passenger reading it would assume their seat for today will also be there tomorrow.

 

[LickeyIncliner]

It looks like there is line flooding somewhere around here (Bromsgrove, but unsure exactly where)...

The photo in the opening post in the thread about Storm Babet yesterday (https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/storm-babet-disruption-friday-20-10.256458/post-6462524) showed flooding just south of Bromsgrove station, under what I knew as Garringtons' bridge

 

[sprinterguy]

Disruption certainly hasn't ended at 09:00.

It looks like there is line flooding somewhere around here (Bromsgrove, but unsure exactly where), as Worcester - Droitwich - Kidderminster services are still running, as are the Redditch - Birmingham services. Nothing currently operating between Barnt Green, Bromsgrove and Droitwich/W Parkway.

There is one rogue 09:55 Shrub Hill - Bromsgrove - Bham showing as running still but that must be an error.

Unsurprising given the incredible amount of rain we had here yesterday and the resulting flooding in nearby Cleobury which sadly took someone's life.

Looks like Chesterfield - Derby is still blocked as well. The only services through Chesterfield so far today have been Northern's Leeds - Nottingham services, which themselves have been turning back at Alfreton so far.

 

[InkyScrolls]

Northern are advising that all services between Shipley and Leeds (so affecting all Triangle services bar Bradford to Ilkley/Skipton) will be cancelled until 0400 on Sunday at the earliest:

Last Updated 21/10/2023 06:56
Due to a river flooding the railway between Leeds and Shipley all lines are blocked. Disruption is expected until 04:00 22/10.
How does it affect your service:
Train services between Skipton and Leeds will be cancelled.
Our advice to our customers:
Services between Leeds and Shipley are currently being disrupted due to flooding from a river near Kirstal forge [sic]. Customers are advised NOT TO TRAVEL on these routes
Network rail [sic] are on site and monitoring water levels.
Effect on service:
Train services are unable to run between Leeds and Shipley/Skipton/Bradford Forster Square/Ilkley, (in both directions). Customers are advised NOT TO TRAVEL on these routes
A limited service will operate between:
Bradford Forster Square - Ilkley
Bradford Forster Square - Skipton
Carlisle and Morecambe services will start and terminate at Skipton.

Alternative travel suggestions:
Customers are advised to use train services to and from Bradford Interchange to access services from Bradford Foster Square.
Customers can go via Preston for services to Lancaster and Carlisle.
Customers can use Northern tickets on Transpennine Express and Avanti services between Lancaster and Carlisle.
Any ticket restrictions have been lifted during this disruption.
Road transport:
Road transport will not be provided between Leeds & Shipley.

 

[175001]

Looks like Chesterfield - Derby is still blocked as well. The only services through Chesterfield so far today have been Northern's Leeds - Nottingham services, which themselves have been turning back at Alfreton so far.

Network Rail East Midlands on twitter shows the tracks at Breadsall north of Derby still submerged.

 

[Jimini]

now going via Reading and changing there.

An incredidbly popular plan, unsurprisingly!

 

[xotGD]

Looks like Leeds to Doncaster is flooded.

Advice is to go via York.

 

[43055]

Network Rail East Midlands on twitter shows the tracks at Breadsall north of Derby still submerged.

Not surprising considering the river Derwent is currently at 3.58m in the city which is 23cm higher than the highest level recorded in 2019. Normally it is less than 1m.

Looks like a route proving train from Derby to Stoke and back so the North Staffs may reopen soon.

Realtime Trains | 5Z81 0840 Derby to Stoke-on-Trent | 21/10/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Z81 0840 departure from Derby to Stoke-on-Trent on 21/10/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Realtime Trains | 5Z82 0935 Stoke-on-Trent to Derby | 21/10/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Z82 0935 departure from Stoke-on-Trent to Derby on 21/10/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[dk1]

Proving trips now running Norwich to Great Yarmouth/Lowestoft at 20mph.

Not looking good at the moment for Norwich-Ipswich following flooding in various locations not least the river Gipping bursting its banks at Stowmarket. Diversionary route via Ely is already RR buses west of Thetford as booked engineering block this weekend.

 

[308165]

Northern are advising that all services between Shipley and Leeds (so affecting all Triangle services bar Bradford to Ilkley/Skipton) will be cancelled until 0400 on Sunday at the earliest:

And frustratingly Northern don't seem to want to run any Skipton - Leeds trains between Skipton and Shipley or operate the Skipton - Bradford half hourly. This means the only service during the middle of the day is the now hourly Skipton - Bradford and this is despite them telling people to travel via Bradford to get to Leeds.

Completion of the flood protection work at Kirkstall can't come soon enough.

 

[Sniffingmoose]

Flood warning for the River Trent including Central Rivers Depot

Flood warning area: River Trent at Catton, Barton under Needwood and Branston Water Park including Central Rivers Railway Depot, Barton Turns and Greycar Business Park area in Barton under Needwood and Lichfield Road area in Branston.

Flood warning for River Trent at Catton, Barton under Needwood and Branston Water Park

 

[LAX54]

Proving trips now running Norwich to Great Yarmouth/Lowestoft at 20mph.

Not looking good at the moment for Norwich-Ipswich following flooding in various locations not least the river Gipping bursting its banks at Stowmarket. Diversionary route via Ely is already RR buses west of Thetford as booked engineering block this weekend.

seen the pictures of the section at Stowmarket, looks like the River Gipping has taken a new course ! certainly more canal than railway !

 

[dk1]

seen the pictures of the section at Stowmarket, looks like the River Gipping has taken a new course ! certainly more canal than railway !

Been sent a couple from a mate but NR recently posted on X too. Remember it bad there in the 90s.

 

[LAX54]

Been sent a couple from a mate but NR recently posted on X too. Remember it bad there in the 90s.

just sent a couple

 

[dk1]

just sent a couple

Thank you matey.

 

[InOban]

Scotrail gradually recovering. HML reopened, also Fife via Dunfermline but not yet via Kirkcaldy. WHLopen now that trees have stopped blowing over.(Actually Kirkcaldy is a planned closure, as is the Kyle line)

 

[Martin_1981]

An incredidbly popular plan, unsurprisingly!

Just grateful that route is open. Apparently there is a Limited replacement bus between Birmingham and Bristol, but that would have probably taken longer than going via Rdg.

 

[InkyScrolls]

And frustratingly Northern don't seem to want to run any Skipton - Leeds trains between Skipton and Shipley or operate the Skipton - Bradford half hourly. This means the only service during the middle of the day is the now hourly Skipton - Bradford and this is despite them telling people to travel via Bradford to get to Leeds.

Completion of the flood protection work at Kirkstall can't come soon enough.

Indeed! As platform 2 is both bidirectional and not currently used, there's nothing stopping the Skipton > Leeds services from terminating at Shipley in platform 2, and waiting for an appropriate return path. Of course there may well also be a shortage of units north of the flood.

 

[ChrisC]

It’s looking like the line between Derby and Long Eaton is opening with EMR trains starting to run from Derby to London St. Pancras and Crewe to Newark Castle.
Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire have been hit very badly with nothing running north from Derby or Nottingham. There’s an hourly service from Nottingham to Mansfield Woodhouse but nothing to Worksop from any direction. Northern still running hourly north of Alfreton to Leeds.