gabrielhj07
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Flooding still causing trouble on the MML. Northbound Notts trains this morning seemed ok, but believe 1B34 was the first to leave Nottingham southbound.
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Storm Babet disruption - Saturday 21/10
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Sleepy
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Norwich to Gt. Yarmouth and Lowestoft are now re-opening but Norwich to Ipswich still blocked.
UPDATE : Set from 1P56 last night which was screwed down at Stowmarket will soon be moved towards Norwich. Up line remains closed.
UPDATE : Set from 1P56 last night which was screwed down at Stowmarket will soon be moved towards Norwich. Up line remains closed.
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dk1
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Not looking good for the main line today.
Peter Mugridge
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The 12.22 from Peak Forest to Selby ( 6E51 ) was activated at 10.22 so it'll be worth watching to see if that runs... if it does, the tunnel must be open. The exact two hours gap between activation and departure time, though, does suggest an automatic activation may be in play?
Realtime Trains | 6E51 1222 Peak Forest Cemex Gbrf to Selby (Gb Railfreight) | 21/10/2023
Real-time train running information for 6E51 1222 departure from Peak Forest Cemex Gbrf to Selby (Gb Railfreight) on 21/10/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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londonmidland
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Does anyone know if LNER are operating any trains out of Kings Cross today?
Yes they are, 1 x Edinburgh and 1 x Leeds per hour.
dk1
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Much better than I expected. I see Hull Trains are suffering severe overcrowding.
dk1
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One of those days. Not sure what people were expecting today.
Thing is like where I am in ecml, blue skies and sunshine.
People never believe the news even when the pictures are crystal clear what is happening out on the network!
People yesterday, complaining about delays, then admit had seen news and heard the do not travel but still decide to board a train.
northwichcat
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It's not that easy to not travel for some people. If you've travelled somewhere for work then you have to get back home, with the only alternative being staying in a hotel for the night and travelling back the next day instead. Businesses won't pay for extra hotel nights unless it's unavoidable i.e. no trains at all (via any route) and train operators not having any liability for putting stranded passengers in hotels.
Llanigraham
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Cambrian currently closed to Shrewsbury, and it seems the line east of there to Brum is also still closed.
Hoping it will be sorted out tomorrow as we are off to London midday. Otherwise it means we will have to drive down.
Hoping it will be sorted out tomorrow as we are off to London midday. Otherwise it means we will have to drive down.
CaptainHaddock
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East Midlands Trains winning few friends by not bothering to run anything between Sheffield and Liverpool today despite the line being clear and both TPE and Northern running normally through the Hope Valley.
dk1
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Not necessarily not bothering. Northern are cancelling Nottingham trains too and XC from Sheffield is a sea of red. It’s just one of those days.
How many units do they have north of the blockage? Where are the staff based?
The phrase 'not bothering' is totally inappropriate.
D6130
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I suspect that a lot of their units may be trapped East of Nottingham.
northwichcat
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The average passenger won't know where staff are based and even if they do, they won't know that it requires more than operators to just work together i.e. a spare Northern driver might not have the route or traction knowledge.
It's perhaps fortunate that the football schedule has a Merseyside derby today.
D6130
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Nottingham.
Yes, that is fair, perhaps it is for East Midlands Railway to explain that.
Quite. Explains why the phrasing of the original poster was inappropriate.
ChrisC
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All routes north from Nottingham to Sheffield are blocked by floods and EMR cannot get their units through. The Erewash line is flooded between Nottingham and Alfreton, the line is flooded north of Derby and the line via Worksop is flooded north of Mansfield and between Worksop and Sheffield. The rain here in Nottinghamshire was torrential for more than 24 hours and flooding very widespread.
gabrielhj07
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How is Euston doing?
I notice the last train of the night from Doncaster to Grimsby 10:38pm today and tomorrow is cancelled due to flooding between Doncaster and sheffield, I will potentially be relying on this train on Monday! Anybody who's local know what the chances are of that 10:38pm to be running on Monday?
dk1
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A quick check of RTT will tell you not too bad.
CaptainHaddock
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That may be the case but TPE have been able to operate between Sheffield and Liverpool despite the line being blocked between Doncaster and Sheffield so EMR's feeble excuses won't wash. There were several EMR 158s in Sheffield station when I was there around 1100 so not all of them are trapped East of Nottingham.
Leeds - Doncaster still blocked by flooding at Adwick & South Elmsall. LNER running 1 x Leeds - London a hour with Bi-modes Diverting via Micklefield & Hambleton Curve
Doncaster - Sheffield still closed with flooding at Mexborough and at Rotherham Central
Harrogate line still closed between Horsforth & Harrogate with flooding. Northern running Leeds - Horsforth and Harrogate - York shuttles
No EMR Sheffield - St Pancras services all day due to the flooding between Derby & Chesterfield.
XC Anglo scots running Leeds - Edinburgh only
Doncaster - Sheffield still closed with flooding at Mexborough and at Rotherham Central
Harrogate line still closed between Horsforth & Harrogate with flooding. Northern running Leeds - Horsforth and Harrogate - York shuttles
No EMR Sheffield - St Pancras services all day due to the flooding between Derby & Chesterfield.
XC Anglo scots running Leeds - Edinburgh only
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D6130
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But their crews are! EMR don't have any traincrew depots West/North of Nottingham/Derby. Nottingham crews work through to Manchester and Liverpool, as I'm sure @LowLevel will confirm. In the current circumstances I would think it would be extremely difficult - or impossible - to taxi crews from Nottingham to Sheffield. Northern have traincrew depots at Manchester, Sheffield and Doncaster and TPE have depots at Manchester and Cleethorpes, so they are able to continue running via the Hope Valley.
Peterthegreat
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There are EMR TMs and customer hosts based at Sheffield. Not much good without drivers, though!
Peterthegreat
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There has been an EMR 8 car 158 blocking platform 8 at Sheffield for the last 24 hours or so.
Indeed, and this is part of the fragmentation brought on by privatisation. Introduced by the Government which now says the railways cost too much to run.
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