Mintona
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Very clever - name him and (possibly) just have informed his manager he did something wrong...please take that out...
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devon_metro
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TMs are allowed to upgrade people though :?
Beaker
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Dam him doing his job, dam him.
P156KWJ
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and yesterday it would have been difficult to charge many people, as many passengers were Virgin Trains passengers who's trains were cancelled from Manchester and regardless of if they'd paid for first class, weren't allowed to sit in it.
Not for free though.
P156KWJ
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If their manager found out, I doubt that giving someone a free upgrade would be strong ground for losing his job!
devon_metro
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Yes, the TM can upgrade anybody if they want although only normally under exceptional circumstances
P156KWJ
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rmt
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Surely it would be up?
If you go via Derby, its Down. Midland Railway routes always went up to Derby.
Cup of Boiling Hot Water?
What I don't get is why people who go Second Class get the drink made for them, while people in FC have to have sachets and to do it ourselves. What are we actually paying for?
Well, STD class people have to pay for their tea. Also on weekends you're not paying for much.
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Thankyou Jamie
Old joke is old.
Death
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Hmmm...I never noticed that before, but as someone who always travels in standard class, it's me who's having to pay about £2.49 if he wants to avail himself of a hot beverage!Cup of Boiling Hot Water?
What I don't get is why people who go Second Class get the drink made for them, while people in FC have to have sachets and to do it ourselves. What are we actually paying for?
Incidentally, the only time I've had to make my own drink at the buffet was back in the days of MML and their nice teas and coffees...And those were free even to standard class passengers. Coincidence? 8)
And on that note: I have the feeling I might've been the only person ever to have been banned from the buffet on an MML service because of the amount of coffee that I can get through!
hock::razz:But how on Earth would the person serving at the buffet know if a passenger has an STD or not?
hock::roll:Is that someone who normally gives enthusiasts a bit of a hard time then? Can't say I'm familiar with him, to be honest...
I'd like to know the thinking behind the up/down system anyway...If "up" referred to trains heading Northbound, and "down" referred to trains heading south, then it'd make perfect sense to me...But "up" moves that I've taken include Farnborough > Waterloo, Blackwater > Guildford, and Stansted > Liverpool street!
hock:Now where - I ask myself - Is the logic in that system?
Weekend you get paper, weekdays you get mugs.
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But how on Earth would the person serving at the buffet know if a passenger has an STD or not?
You have to show your FC ticket...
16CSVT2700
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In railway terms, the phrases "down" and "up" refer to the direction to or from an originating point.
For example on the Great Western all directions away from London Paddington are "Down", and all directions towards London Paddington are "Up".
In other examples, like Farington Curve Jcn to the Blackburn line. The line designations are Down East Lancs heading away from Farington Curve Jcn towards Lostock Hall, and Up East Lancs heading towards it away from Lostock.
If I have totally confused you I'll post a few Quail scans to show you what I mean..
For example on the Great Western all directions away from London Paddington are "Down", and all directions towards London Paddington are "Up".
In other examples, like Farington Curve Jcn to the Blackburn line. The line designations are Down East Lancs heading away from Farington Curve Jcn towards Lostock Hall, and Up East Lancs heading towards it away from Lostock.
If I have totally confused you I'll post a few Quail scans to show you what I mean..
Death
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So all movements towards
...Though in my mind - With all good things being found up North - "Down" should really be used for southbound services IMO! :razz:
I think I get ye there...Indeed, I believe that might be the line that I got my first trans-Pennine coverage on earlier this year (Running Preston > Blackburn > Burnley > Halifax > Leeds > Gjorvik) so the line itself - And that damn Hellfire incline west of Hebden
- Is still fresh in my mind. 8)So basically: It sounds like "up" is West, and "down" is east in that case...Right?
I always viewed FC as "a slightly bigger seat at 2x the price"...Hence why I always go standard, and save myself a bucket in the process! :razz:
The last time I travelled in FC - Between Leamington Spa and Euston - Was about 2-3 years ago...But that was because the train was heavily overcrowded that night, I had an injury (So couldn't stand) and decided that I qualified for a free upgrade of my Y-P standard class ticket. As it was, FC was declassified just after I took my seat in there anyway...So I didn't have to worry about making sure the Guard could see that I was in a rather angry mood, and had some rather sharp 3in spiked bracers on my arms...
hock:8)The only FC "amenity" I've ever wished for was the free wi-fi that they offer...But for that I normally stand in an SC vestibule with my laptop or mobile and leech off of the nearest FC coach.
When there are problems on this route, it may be as a result of Diabetes
Sorry, but that's one of my pet hates!
Death
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I suppose it's no coincidence that there's a mahoosive hospital just up the road from the station, then!When there are problems on this route, it may be as a result of Diabetes
What? Diabetes...Or the way that I choose to spell the name of EMT's London terminus?Sorry, but that's one of my pet hates!
No you pay for FC service on weekdays hence FC seats are cheaper on the weekend. :roll:
Are non-advance purchase first class fares cheaper on a weekend, or are you talking rubbish again?
The same fares are available on weekdays, but there is a larger quota of advance purchase tickets available on weekends to fill what would otherwise be empty seats. Perhaps if EMT offered a first class service on weekends people would be prepared to pay a bit more and they wouldn't have so many seats to fill.
The same fares are available on weekdays, but there is a larger quota of advance purchase tickets available on weekends to fill what would otherwise be empty seats. Perhaps if EMT offered a first class service on weekends people would be prepared to pay a bit more and they wouldn't have so many seats to fill.
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