Terms used "darn sarf" that baffle us oiks up north

[IanD]

You don't know what you are missing!

There was a question about them on The Chase the other night. Southerner Bradley Walsh didn't have a clue either.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Have you swallowed a Victorian edition of the Thesaurus?

For the benefit of southern members, no one in Lancashire talks (or writes) like this.

You speak of someone born in 1945 in the shadow of the New Allen Street viaduct that took passenger rail traffic from the pre-1844 period took passengers to the terminal station of the Manchester and Leeds Railway at Manchester Oldham Road railway station, prior to the through Manchester Victoria railway being opened. It then, until eventual closure, became a goods station.

Seventy-one years later, I still reside in the new administrative county of Cheshire East, which is still in the northern shires, though not as grim as some others paint.
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Some southerners don't know what a 'butty' is though. I once went down to London early for a railtour about 10 years and went to a breakfast outlet near King's Cross and asked for a sausage butty (rather than a sausage roll, as i thought I might end up with something in pastry), and the woman looked at me as if I was talking some foreign language....

Another use of the word "butty" is when describing a butty boat, which is an unpowered boat found on narrow waterways, traditionally with a larger rudder than is the norm, with a wooden tiller, as the steering does not benefit from force of water generated by a propeller.

 

[341o2]

You speak of someone born in 1945 in the shadow of the New Allen Street viaduct that took passenger rail traffic from the pre-1844 period took passengers to the terminal station of the Manchester and Leeds Railway at Manchester Oldham Road railway station, prior to the through Manchester Victoria railway being opened. It then, until eventual closure, became a goods station.

Seventy-one years later, I still reside in the new administrative county of Cheshire East, which is still in the northern shires, though not as grim as some others paint.
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Another use of the word "butty" is when describing a butty boat, which is an unpowered boat found on narrow waterways, traditionally with a larger rudder than is the norm, with a wooden tiller, as the steering does not benefit from force of water generated by a propeller.

Cue LTC Rolt - in the days of commercial waterways, the boats operated in pairs, the powered boat was the monkey and the unpowered one the butty

 

[backontrack]

I am sometimes described as the "Wordsworth of the RailUK Forums" (another lad who lived in the northern shires of this realm) by my use of "flowery and arcane language".

If you're the one saying it then it doesn't count

I am also described in much ruder terms on threads where political debates are in progress...

Though you haven't of course been described as a 'young socialist flag-waving rebel'...yet.

That is perhaps a moniker of which I am unduly proud...

 

[shredder1]

Or the Cuttlefish after Monty Python

Darn sarf is spelt daan saaf by the way. Darn is wot u do wiv a needle.

Its always been known as darn sarf from here in Mankyland, aw white

 

[306024]

Its always been known as darn sarf from here in Mankyland, aw white

That ain't ow its pronaanced daan ere me ol china.

You don't know what you are missing!

Curiosity got the better of me. I now know what to miss

 

[BlythPower]

Have you swallowed a Victorian edition of the Thesaurus?

For the benefit of southern members, no one in Lancashire talks (or writes) like this.
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Here in God's Own County we don't have saveloys, the "delights" of which I encountered on a trip darn sarf many years ago.

And we take the skin off our fish in the chippy too. Only heathens leave the skin on.

Stotties, Parmo and the fabled Saveloy Dip all to be found here:
Top 5 North-East Foods/

 

[DarloRich]

Stotties, Parmo and the fabled Saveloy Dip all to be found here:
Top 5 North-East Foods/

the near mythical Saveloy dip. We are not worthy.

Although a Parmo at number 5 is simply wrong. 2600 calories and 150g of fat. Put hairs on your chest that will.

Now if we could wash it down with a few pints of Vaux Double Maxim and a Woodbine the night would be complete.
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Curiosity got the better of me. I now know what to miss

Typical soft southerner - not man enough to deal with proper northern foods.

The breakfast stottie is a work of genius. A bread product that can carry an entire fried breakfast. Superb!

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Another "Northern" savoury dish that I have tasted so far in Oldham and Ashton-under-Lyne is that of Rag Pudding. I think it contained minced beef and onion with a suet pastry shell. I was told that it was cooked in a type of porous cloth.

Has anyone else tasted this?

 

[Howardh]

Kecks = trousers (in effete southern language).

Pumps = plimsolls (ditto).

How about muffin?

Muffin the mule used to be a regular pastime round these parts until it became frowned upon by the RSPCA.

What??

It's a light cake often with currents in. I slice one open and add jam for mummy. Next door's cat is also called Muffin.

Butter pie, anyone??

 

[61653 HTAFC]

how about kecks and pumps?

ps although darn sarf I spent four years in the Wirral. I have fond regards for the Scousers including their back loaders and guards

One scouse term I've heard different explanations for is "woollyback". Some say it's used for those from the Wirral, others insist it refers to those from the rural hinterlands north and east of central Liverpool such as citizens of Ormskirk, Burscough and Skem.

 

[306024]

Typical soft southerner - not man enough to deal with proper northern foods.

Fortunately yes. In fact not man enough to cope with jellied eels either. But a nice plate of Leigh cockles goes down a treat (Leigh-on-Sea, not those funny little ones from Morecambe though).

 

[Busaholic]

:cry:

Butter pie, anyone??

The absolute favourite of my late father-in-law, a Prestonian through and through, and he knew his pies!

 

[furnessvale]

:cry:

The absolute favourite of my late father-in-law, a Prestonian through and through, and he knew his pies!

Available on Fridays, thanks to the Catholic tradition of no meat on Friday.

 

[Busaholic]

Available on Fridays, thanks to the Catholic tradition of no meat on Friday.

That I never knew (the first bit, I mean)