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TfGM Bee Network - fleet discussion
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I'm unsure why this is here, would it not be too old?, or is it just a temporary addition? I am sure also that they could use buses transferred in to release newer stock from Queens Road to Bolton and Wigan, seeing as Queens Road won't now be with them for too long now, and there is no fixed age requirements while its still under GoAhead ownership, If it was mine I know I'd be tempted to move all the ex London B5TL/MCV and all of the ex FirstGroup Enviro E400's as well as some of the newer B7RLE's (14plate examples)? Also do we know yet what the Rotala Fleet of around 100 vehicles will be? I know some Streetlites have transferred in, in the last couple of Weeks from Hallmark to add to the ex FirstGroup examples and a whole pile of Streetlites plus a pair of StreetDecks are due imminently from Preston, plus some unknown stock from The West Midlands Diamond Fleet.
cnjb8
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Y7THG was originally a 59 plate so it falls in the age range
Oh, fair enough It's unusual for an operator of this size to buy an odd ball like this. I believe its original operator was Abellio. I wonder how they came to own this oddity. It would be very interesting to know the reason behind the purchase of this.
KendalKing
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To confirm, Rotala will be selling the following vehicles to Go North West 24/09/23:
Optare Solo - 30100 (1)
Volvo B7RLE - 30928 (1)
E200's - 30962, 30971, 30975-77, 31407/8, 31411 & 31414/5 (10)
Citaros - 33010/1, 33013-19, 33021-31 & 33033 (21)
Streetdecks - 40700-13, 40720-24, 40727, 40733-60, 40762-804, 40809-17 & 40821 (101)
Total = 134
MSO69
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Ex rotala Enviro200s will probably be under the 4000 fleet number
MasterSpenny
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4025 (YX61FZR) is now in Bee Network yellow. Does anybody know what it’s fleet number is? (not my photo)
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MSO69
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YX61FZR is listed as SEN32 for now as that is its former fleet number, it will most likely be numbered in the 4000 fleet like all of GNW'S other enviro200s 4001-4030 etc. Although, 5101-SN65OHO has a 5000 fleet number presumably because its shorter? Correct me if im wrong
This site might help for identifying some of the allocations, Included is a list of ex First & ROTALA vehicles, however I would keep an open mind as the vehicles are shown not renumbered in his lists and carrying fleet numbers of the previous operators.
www.buslists.uk
Quack77 - Go North West fleet list
www.buslists.uk
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MSO69
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i wonder how the whole renumbering is actually going to go down, although they all could just keep their previous fleet numbers as GNW does have a few single decks with 5 digit fleet numbers and idk how long it would take to number all the buses
Looks like the streetdecks will become 3401-3501. There is a photo on the Rotala (Diamond) Enthusiasts Facebook page of 40782 with a comment that it’s to become 3469.
This makes sense if you sort the 101 streetdecks in alphabetical order (which I’ve done) and indeed 40782 would become 3469
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This makes sense if you sort the 101 streetdecks in alphabetical order (which I’ve done) and indeed 40782 would become 3469
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MSO69
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Aha yes, you may be correct.
KendalKing
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According to the caption it is 4025YX61FZR is now in Bee Network yellow. Does anybody know what it’s fleet number is? (not my photo)
Leyland Bus
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To clarify, we at Bolton depot have had absolutely nothing info wise as to what will happen come the Monday, so perhaps let's just wait until the Sunday changeover (when the entire fleet will be rebranded as Bee Network and renumbered at the same time) and see what comes of it.
MasterSpenny
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4028 (YX61FZV) has now also been repainted - again, not my photo
Leyland Bus
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Bolton updates.
The Diamond interim fleet are currently being decked out with "Bee Network" logos and names.
New E400s have started to arrive from Wigan, one to test the charging infrastructure and also to position them ready for day one of operation.
40781 has been repainted and now awaits it's new engine to be fitted.
The Diamond interim fleet are currently being decked out with "Bee Network" logos and names.
New E400s have started to arrive from Wigan, one to test the charging infrastructure and also to position them ready for day one of operation.
40781 has been repainted and now awaits it's new engine to be fitted.
pokemonsuper9
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Taking a look at https://bustimes.org/operators/first-greater-manchester/vehicles#fman-bl65yzd
All but one of the Vantage buses (not counting the one in Olympia livery) have been repainted yellow.
All but one of the Vantage buses (not counting the one in Olympia livery) have been repainted yellow.
Leyland Bus
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Isn't necessarily accurate remember.
Out of interest considering one of the Vantage Buses (39257) is currently out of service at Oldham Depot after a recent RTC this raises a couple of questions:
1> Have Go Northwest got enough spare buses ready from Day one or even Day two (Monday) to operate Vantage Services?
2> Will Oldham Depot still be responsible for fixing 39257 from Sunday considering it will still be off the road?
1> Have Go Northwest got enough spare buses ready from Day one or even Day two (Monday) to operate Vantage Services?
2> Will Oldham Depot still be responsible for fixing 39257 from Sunday considering it will still be off the road?
Leyland Bus
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1) I'm pretty confident they will have taken that into account.
2) It wasn't the drivers fault so it will surely be an insurance job. They're most likely awaiting a quote and it'll go somewhere like Bus and Coach World at Blackburn for repair.
978wta
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I’m not sure how many but some MCV EvoSeti’s have been kitted out as spares to run on the guided busway.
MasterSpenny
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3271 (LX60DVZ) - Repainted. Seems its fuel sticker from use in London survived the repaint. At least some fire fighters know what it’s powered by unlike most the other buses in the garage 
(Not my photo)
(Not my photo)
pokemonsuper9
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Noticed a diamond bus with "Bee Network" stickers on it earlier, but no yellow, the "I'm a Bee Network bus waiting to be turned yellow" sticker (which despite its bad placement blocking a window, at least it has a useful message with it)
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Two Stagecoach E400MMC's in the yard at Stagecoach Merseyside's Rock Ferry depot this evening after repaint into Bee Network yellow, 11267 & 11518.
KendalKing
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They are a least three Diamond Street Lites, running around like that Yesterday in Bolton.
Leyland Bus
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See post 197 aboveNoticed a diamond bus with "Bee Network" stickers on it earlier, but no yellow, the "I'm a Bee Network bus waiting to be turned yellow" sticker (which despite its bad placement blocking a window, at least it has a useful message with it)
pokemonsuper9
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Yes I had seen that but thought photos might be useful
I have seen pictures on ‘Buses2012’ Flickr page of EvoSeti’s kitted out & tested on the Guided Busway so Go North West should have enough spare to cover the Vantage routes.
MasterSpenny
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Does anybody know what the new Go North West Enviro 200 MMCs will be coded as? They don’t seem to number them until they arrive and are ready for service.
SK73CPU is one of the plates (not my photo)
SK73CPU is one of the plates (not my photo)