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Deerfold

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TFGM will keep doing stuff like this as then when passengers complain, they then reply spouting pro franchising/anti deregulation propaganda to try and increase their fight against the big bad private bus operators. TFGM has no intention of a joined up network until franchising comes in and then the joined up network will be kicking everyone off buses at tram stops so that they can get rid of all buses within the city centre as per Manchester City Councils aims.

Someone had better tell Greater Manchester Combined Authority (GMCA) that, as their plans don't seems in include getting rid of buses in the City Centre.
 
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Someone had better tell GMCA that, as their plans don't seems in include getting rid of buses in the City Centre.
May not be in the official plan but how else do you explain pedestrianizing so many places so that buses have to go around the world and back again. Plans keep popping up to close Piccadilly Gardens Bus Station and Oldham Street and that area too around Picc Gardens. I do think plans were in to shut St Marys Gate. Combined, buses get stuck in congestion and so end up pushed out of the city centre as no one uses slow buses.
 

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They have mooted moving Piccadilly Gardens bus station to Piccadilly rail station but the bus routes past the square would still be there, they are only thinking of pedestrianising Mosley Street not Portland or Oldham Streets.
 

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They have mooted moving Piccadilly Gardens bus station to Piccadilly rail station but the bus routes past the square would still be there, they are only thinking of pedestrianising Mosley Street not Portland or Oldham Streets.
Oldham Street is one of those which keeps going around every now and again. They are certainly trying to pedestrianize over that area.

The general idea that Manchester City Council keep peddling is pedestrianise as much as they can get away with and force buses to adapt until such a stage, it's uneconomical to run buses within the city because it becomes a congested hell hole (like some parts of London became before route cuts).
 

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Buses to nearest [light] rail station is a common way of doing things on the continent, and it works fine. It's more efficient than having loads of buses all following each other all the way to the city.

I'm not in favour of introducing it gratuitously, mind, but it's a small price to pay for higher quality city centre spaces.
 
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