TfL considering Sydenham corridor AM improvement

[bicbasher]

TfL have confirmed that there will be a one-off London Overground service to London Bridge on Easter Sunday, operating 2tph between London Bridge and West Croydon.

Driver training will be on Sunday 25th February.

(4tph will operate between Sydenham and New Cross Gate with a shuttle to Crystal Palace starting from NXG).

 

[CapitalStar378]

TfL have confirmed that there will be a one-off London Overground service to London Bridge on Easter Sunday, operating 2tph between London Bridge and West Croydon.

Driver training will be on Sunday 25th February.

(4tph will operate between Sydenham and New Cross Gate with a shuttle to Crystal Palace starting from NXG).

Is this an in service test or just a one off? Seems like a lot of effort if it's the latter.

 

[30907]

Is this an in service test or just a one off? Seems like a lot of effort if it's the latter.

See upthread: the ELL is closed that day, and turfing people out at NXG isn't really an option

 

[Cricketer8for9]

Does anyone know why the Overground has switched platforms at Crystal Palace from platform 5 to platform 3? Platform 3 used to just have 4 or so services a day previously.

Cross platform interchange from the Overground to Southern (on past Gypsy Hill and so on) is more important than cross platform interchange the other way, because trains coming from Gypsy Hill will have a same platform interchange, and a more frequent one at that, between Sydenham and New Cross Gate.

 

[CapitalStar378]

Cross platform interchange from the Overground to Southern (on past Gypsy Hill and so on) is more important than cross platform interchange the other way, because trains coming from Gypsy Hill will have a same platform interchange, and a more frequent one at that, between Sydenham and New Cross Gate.

Thanks, how very sensible of TfL.

 

[Busman]

If we are in speculative discussion, what GTR arguably should do is run the Tattenham / Caterham service up the slow at peak times and use available capacity on those services to be a crowd buster, perhaps only stopping from Forest Hill inwards.

Cant see that happening, that service is already fully loaded when it leaves East Croydon, even moreso when it makes an additional stop at Norwood Junction.

I'd hope they'd double them up if they have the fleet.



Before LO began in 2010, we had semi-fast services from London Bridge to Forest Hill, then Sydenham, etc., I'm pretty they were Sutton/Dorking/Guildford, but might have been the Caterham service.

The absolute best thing would be Thameslink as that'd create further cross-London options, reducing ELL Core pressure, but I doubt it'd ever happen.

You're correct, it was the Caterham / Tattenham Corner service that did that.

 

[miklcct]

See upthread: the ELL is closed that day, and turfing people out at NXG isn't really an option

How about the Southern service between London Bridge and Caterham / Tattenham Corner? Isn't it Southern responsibility to run trains between London Bridge, Forest Hill, Norwood Junction and East Croydon?

 

[bicbasher]

I remember the semi-fast peaks from London Bridge. They were largely Guildford services which called at New Cross Gate, Forest Hill, Sydenham and Norwood Junction before all stops to Guildford in the evening peaks.

The morning peak service was from from Dorking, Epsom or Guildford.

The Caterham/Tattenham Corner semi fasts were around in the 80s and 90s which operated off-peak and also ran semi fast on the slow line also calling at NXG, Forest Hill, Sydenham and Norwood Junction before all stations to Caterham/Tattenham Corner. Eventually they also called at Brockley and Honor Oak Park to bring those stations up to 4tph only missing Penge West and Anerley. These started from Charing Cross.

The most frequent service pre LO was when Southern operated 6tph between London Bridge and Sydenham in the 2000s which were timetabled to operate every 10 minutes.

2tph to Victoria via Crystal Palace
2tph to Sutton via West Croydon which were all stations including Penge West and Anerley.
2tph to Caterham via East Croydon which were still semi fast between Sydenham and Norwood Junction.

 

[PGAT]

Overground was very well used today. Both trains I was on was standing from West Croydon