I was out in York on Wednesday afternoon/early evening and the place was packed, including pubs, so it would seem that the local population and visitors to York are not in favour of restrictions?
Busy on Thursday too. The vocal minority are staying at home but they do not speak for the majority who are still going out.
Those who support restrictions are more likely to be in work from home jobs, have fewer social contacts, be less sociable people, generally less fit & healthy and generally less critical to the economy. They are entitled to their views but they do not represent the majority and I am titled to object to their views and I will not stop calling them out for as long as they are preaching their nonsense.
I favour more/continuing restrictions, in particular for beneficial side-effects: to slow down the economy and reduce use of energy and resources.
This is complete nonsense as Covid testing and various other measures
consume resources. The days of lockdowns where factories shut are long gone and it's not remotely on topic for this debate.
Hit the nail on the head here. Most people I talk to are not scared of Covid itself. There fear is the isolation. With a positive test today ruining whatever plans they had for Christmas, they are choosing to avoid contact. Come January they will go about their business as normal.
I agree.
some of the restrictions are odd. Wales and the nightclubs to name one and the long queues for the Covid expresses into France today. If it is that much of a concern why not do it now?
Because it's all for show and Drakeford likes to throw his weight around.
Why do you wish for the economy to slow down?
If
@LSWR Cavalier wishes to reply on the forum it would need to be posted in a new thread.
They're a lot closer to the truth than the opinions expressed in the echo chamber which is this sub forum. The views expressed by the majority here are very much minority views amongst the general public.
Who do you talk to, and where? I talk to people at work, in pubs/restaurants, at sports events and the vast majority who give a view are unanimously against restrictions.
If the results of the surveys were very close you would have a point but when the figures are 62% for tighter restrictions to 26% against, attempting to argue that in reality the majority are against is desperately clutching at straws,
YouGov polls are notoriously unreliable for these sorts of things and are generally done by the sort of people who have a lot of time on their hands and work from home; see previous posts on the subject.
I take it you haven't considered the possibility that those people you see on public transport and in shops aren't a representative sample of the local population, ie those most concerned about Covid and more likely to wear masks are also less likely to use public transport and visit shops?
I think the people you talk to are unrepresentative of the general population.
There are clear geographical divides as well as generational divides (and all have exceptions)
It's very hard to understand why people are comparing now to March 2020. Then, no-one was vaccinated and no-one had natural immunity.
Some people are vaccine effectiveness deniers.
And do such people want an immediate and full lockdown?
Some people do; they tend to be the sort of person that doesn't see the bigger picture, does not consider the long term effects, underestimates the ability of the virus to continue spreading regardless, tends to work from home (or be retired) etc...
Is the theory that if the peak is pushed into the spring and summer, we'll be better able to cope with it?
I am not sure what their logic is; some of them may think that but most pro-restriction people seem to think that restrictions don't delay infections and make the problem go away. You would have thought they'd realised that was wrong over a year ago, but these people are not always the brightest sparks
