Toe-Ton or Tott-Un? (Toton and Totton)

[whhistle]

Simple question... Toe-Ton or Tott-Un?

On a side note, just figured out I've been pronouncing Bachmann wrong for years. I always thought it was "batch-mun", but apparently the term is "back-mun".

EDIT: As in HS2 Nottinghamshire area.

 

[221129]

If you mean Totton (hants) then it is Tott-Un Or Toton Yard it is Toe-ton.

 

[InOban]

Simple question... Toe-Ton or Tott-Un?

On a side note, just figured out I've been pronouncing Bachmann wrong for years. I always thought it was "batch-mun", but apparently the term is "back-mun".

Surely the ch is pronounced as in loch or lough, certainly not as in back.

 

[Ianno87]

Is this poll about Toton or Totton?!

 

[Andyjs247]

Nottinghamshire or Hampshire?

 

[snowball]

Deleted as other people have said it.

 

[TwistedMentat]

Whatever gets you understood.

Being from NZ a lot of the place names over here are fun to try and figure out if there's a proper pronounciation.

For example. Berkshire. Is it Berk-shy-er, Berk-sure, or Bark-sure? Honestly all three will get you understood, and from what I've seen the last two will end in an argument.

Or to use an NZ example. Whakatane. To a non kiwi that probably looks like Whack-a-tane. But the local pronounciation is ****-a-tah-neigh (Seriously, Whak in Te Reo Maori is pronounced like ****. I'm not swearing for fun here.)

So in the end if you can communicate the name of the place then it's right. Some pronounciations may be more common or regional. But the important part is communication the place name.

 

[class387]

Whatever gets you understood.

Being from NZ a lot of the place names over here are fun to try and figure out if there's a proper pronounciation.

For example. Berkshire. Is it Berk-shy-er, Berk-sure, or Bark-sure? Honestly all three will get you understood, and from what I've seen the last two will end in an argument.

Or to use an NZ example. Whakatane. To a non kiwi that probably looks like Whack-a-tane. But the local pronounciation is ****-a-tah-neigh (Seriously, Whak in Te Reo Maori is pronounced like ****. I'm not swearing for fun here.)

So in the end if you can communicate the name of the place then it's right. Some pronounciations may be more common or regional. But the important part is communication the place name.

What is '****'?

 

[Howezy_21]

What is '****'?

I'm gonna take a guess and say its probably the F word

 

[a_c_skinner]

Definitive answer (for Notts, anyhow):

Toe-Tun. I was raised near Stanton Gate then Trowell stations, the former soon gone, the latter soon merely Trowell Jn.

 

[HowardGWR]

For example. Berkshire. Is it Berk-shy-er, Berk-sure, or Bark-sure? Honestly all three will get you understood, and from what I've seen the last two will end in an argument.

None of those three are correct. It's Barksher ( the last syllable is as in Kosher and no pause in the middle). South of Watford anyway.

On topic, its toetun and I've lodged there, and heard them say it.

 

[snowball]

On topic, its toetun and I've lodged there, and heard them say it.

As everyone has already said, it depends which one the OP meant.
I presume you aren't claiming that you've lodged at both of them and that both are pronounced the same way.

 

[johnnychips]

Definitive answer (for Notts, anyhow):

Toe-Tun. I was raised near Stanton Gate then Trowell stations, the former soon gone, the latter soon merely Trowell Jn.

So how do you say Trowell? Garden implement or ‘Trole’ or TroWELL?

 

[AM9]

If you mean Totton (hants) then it is Tott-Un Or Toton Yard it is Toe-ton.

In this case that follows standard english pronounciation rules, i.e. a vowel followed by a single consonant lengthens the vowel's sound whereas a vowel followed by a double consonant shortens it. For example:

pater pronounced pay-ter wheras patter is said as pat-ter
super is soup-er and supper is sup-per​

there are many more but it's too early on a Sunday to boot my brain up properly.

 

[HowardGWR]

As everyone has already said, it depends which one the OP meant.
I presume you aren't claiming that you've lodged at both of them and that both are pronounced the same way.

You presume incorrectly, only Toton. Actually, as a west country man, I would assume Totton is somewhat glottal stopped.
'To'un' (To as in top).

 

[Darkinsider]

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[TwistedMentat]

I'm gonna take a guess and say its probably the F word

Ugggh, stupid swear filters. Yeah, Eff you see kay.

 

[fowler9]

Whatever gets you understood.

Being from NZ a lot of the place names over here are fun to try and figure out if there's a proper pronounciation.

For example. Berkshire. Is it Berk-shy-er, Berk-sure, or Bark-sure? Honestly all three will get you understood, and from what I've seen the last two will end in an argument.

Or to use an NZ example. Whakatane. To a non kiwi that probably looks like Whack-a-tane. But the local pronounciation is ****-a-tah-neigh (Seriously, Whak in Te Reo Maori is pronounced like ****. I'm not swearing for fun here.)

So in the end if you can communicate the name of the place then it's right. Some pronounciations may be more common or regional. But the important part is communication the place name.

I love New Zealand place names, I spent my birthday six years ago walking around the forest at Whakawerawera near Rotorua.

 

[Dougal2345]

None of those three are correct. It's Barksher ( the last syllable is as in Kosher and no pause in the middle).

I would say it's Bark-shuh myself... So after the soft "sh" there's just the merest hint of a very short "uh" sound.

Regarding Bachmann, I always assumed the Bach was pronounced like the composer, "Bark" (with no special attempt to try a German style "ch").

 

[Calthrop]

Whatever gets you understood.

Being from NZ a lot of the place names over here are fun to try and figure out if there's a proper pronounciation.

For example. Berkshire. Is it Berk-shy-er, Berk-sure, or Bark-sure? Honestly all three will get you understood, and from what I've seen the last two will end in an argument.

Or to use an NZ example. Whakatane. To a non kiwi that probably looks like Whack-a-tane. But the local pronounciation is ****-a-tah-neigh (Seriously, Whak in Te Reo Maori is pronounced like ****. I'm not swearing for fun here.)

I love New Zealand place names, I spent my birthday six years ago walking around the forest at Whakawerawera near Rotorua.

I'm only sorry that a railway was never opened, serving that place in the North Island with the colossally long name beginning with T. A station there, would have put our Llanfair PG totally in the shade name-wise...

 

[HowardGWR]

I would say it's Bark-shuh myself... So after the soft "sh" there's just the merest hint of a very short "uh" sound.

Yes so would I, but I was assuming an indigenous person.

 

[snowball]

You presume incorrectly, only Toton.

You seem to have missed the "aren't" in my post.

 

[HowardGWR]

You seem to have missed the "aren't" in my post.

No, but I read it in another way, clearly incorrectly.

 

[Western Lord]

Very many years ago on a train from Carlisle to Newcastle we arrived at Prudhoe, which for all I knew rhymed with "What-Ho!". A small kid asked his granny (obviously locals) where they were and she replied "Prudder". Another example of travel broadening the mind!

 

[Minilad]

Heard west mids freight drivers call it "Toe-tun"

Bedworth near Coventry is call by the locals "Bed-uff"

In the same vein Tamworth "Tam-uth"

 

[HowardGWR]

Of course ton is a saxon word.
Ton / tun‎: ‎enclosed village / farmstead / manor

So you really need to go 'back to the future' with Doc and ask them!

 

[DarloRich]

depends which town we are talking about - can you clarify?

Hampshire = Tot ton

Nottinghamshire - Toe ton

 

[Bedpan]

I love New Zealand place names, I spent my birthday six years ago walking around the forest at Whakawerawera near Rotorua.

I agree. We don't have enough good names here. The only one I can think of off hand - and I don't know how to spell it - is the one at pronounced Loogah-Baroogah on the Great Central Railway.

 

[GRALISTAIR]

I have been round ToeTun TMD so many times I have literally lost count. First time I went round in June 1970 I saw D2 -D10 but not D1 all in the space of 3 minutes. Class 44 Peaks to those that do not know what I am on about

 

[snowball]

I agree. We don't have enough good names here. The only one I can think of off hand - and I don't know how to spell it - is the one at pronounced Loogah-Baroogah on the Great Central Railway.

If you don't confine yourself to places with stations, there are scores of UK places with fascinating names. Just look at Dorset villages, for example.

Or just look at any sheet of the OS Landranger map, or online equivalent, and you'll find lots.