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The 59 had Merc electric 1010 on it as well despite being booked for double decker.
And there were a good number waiting for it as well. I had intended catching the 74 from Harrogate, but with it being cancelled and the 59 looking rather busy (no doubt due to a combination of the nice weather and the cancellation of the 74), I ended up going to Leeds instead. I have never known it be cancelled in Reliance days.
 
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And there were a good number waiting for it as well. I had intended catching the 74 from Harrogate, but with it being cancelled and the 59 looking rather busy (no doubt due to a combination of the nice weather and the cancellation of the 74), I ended up going to Leeds instead. I have never known it be cancelled in Reliance days.
The only time I know Reliance cancelled it was when snow was too heavy and had blocked roads around Barden.

Transdev really needs to up their service disruption information for ex-Reliance services, it has been nonexistent. No information regarding Leeman Road traffic lights and diversions, or disruption at Water End due to roadworks.
 

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Yes, they do need to up their service disruption information. Last Friday in York the first 24 was shown as cancelled to Acomb but not for the return journey into York. Guess what! The return journey did not of course run!
 

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Yes, they do need to up their service disruption information. Last Friday in York the first 24 was shown as cancelled to Acomb but not for the return journey into York. Guess what! The return journey did not of course run!
Coming back from Easingwold yesterday, there was no information whatsoever about multiple cancellations due to the incident on Lendal Bridge. I believe the last bus into York was the 16:20 off Thirsk.
 

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Coming back from Easingwold yesterday, there was no information whatsoever about multiple cancellations due to the incident on Lendal Bridge. I believe the last bus into York was the 16:20 off Thirsk.
At EY, I believe we got everything though on the A19 corridor (from Clifton Green obviously).
 

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There have been a few cancellations on York locals recently. Seems they might have staff problems at York.
Feels like York often has a staff/resource problem, I've encountered many over the last 5-6 years when visiting the area. Fear many of the ex Reliance staff won't be sticking round for long, especially as some of them ended up at Transdev previously after Stephensons of Easingwold closed down with many moving on some time after.

Hope we're not going down the route of cancellations on the less frequent services again like when they took on the ex Stephensons work, where they were often short on either drivers and/or buses with the resources seemingly being prioritised on CityZap whilst the 31X to Helmsley which ran every 2 hours back then often only made it to Helmsley every 4 hours (heard accounts of issues on the 181 - Castleline [now 81] as well over the years).

Communication of cancellations is non existent at York on a weekend, remember CityZap had one board missing all day one Sunday towards the end of its existence, but nothing was posted online.

After what happened with the 74 on Saturday, it doesn't fill me with much hope of using their Dalesbus offerings over the summer.
 

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Feels like York often has a staff/resource problem, I've encountered many over the last 5-6 years when visiting the area. Fear many of the ex Reliance staff won't be sticking round for long, especially as some of them ended up at Transdev previously after Stephensons of Easingwold closed down with many moving on some time after.
They keep announcing onboard Coastliner that they're hiring, and even print job adverts on the back of tickets. I also get the impression that many ex-Reliance staff won't stick around, I've heard many complain about the lack of communication from depot managers regarding disruption information and they seem to be less happy generally.
At EY, I believe we got everything though on the A19 corridor (from Clifton Green obviously).
Yes, I saw the afternoon 31X in Easingwold, although I believe it ran out of York via Holgate and Water Lane due to the disruption on Lendal.
 

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With the 74 they coudl split it up driver wise so York drivers only need to know the route to Harrogate, then Harrogate driver to Ikley and a Keighley driver thereafter. The York drivetrs would changeover using the 36 and 843 and the Harrogate drivers via the 59 at Bolton Abbey.
 

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With the 74 they coudl split it up driver wise so York drivers only need to know the route to Harrogate, then Harrogate driver to Ikley and a Keighley driver thereafter. The York drivetrs would changeover using the 36 and 843 and the Harrogate drivers via the 59 at Bolton Abbey.
That sounds like an even more complicated and inefficient way to run it, using three drivers from three depots instead of just one when they are short staffed doesn't sound like a recipe for success!
 

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Timetables for the improved services around Easingwold (on the former Reliance routes) are now available: https://www.transdevbus.co.uk/coast...buses-for-easingwold-and-thirsk-from-6-april/
It does look like a noticeable improvement – journeys between Thirsk and York in particular run a more regular hourly service, and run a quicker route in and out of Thirsk, with Sowerby transferred to the new 32 loop and extended right down to the new developments on the edge of town – as expected, the 32 interworks with the 30/30X to give through journeys to York. And new evening journeys on the 30/30X, as trailed previously.
 

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Timetables for the improved services around Easingwold (on the former Reliance routes) are now available: https://www.transdevbus.co.uk/coast...buses-for-easingwold-and-thirsk-from-6-april/
It does look like a noticeable improvement – journeys between Thirsk and York in particular run a more regular hourly service, and run a quicker route in and out of Thirsk, with Sowerby transferred to the new 32 loop and extended right down to the new developments on the edge of town – as expected, the 32 interworks with the 30/30X to give through journeys to York. And new evening journeys on the 30/30X, as trailed previously.
They have chopped the Easingwold-Thirsk stretch to minimal timing points and presumably The Black Bull means Raskelf (The Old Black Bull)
 

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They appear to be retiring the 30XS numbering, with the service just being numbered as the 30X in the new timetable. It does look like the XS will also run via Bootham into York, instead of the current route via Holgate and Water End, removing the journey from Blossom Street to Easingwold on an afternoon during school term.
 

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They have chopped the Easingwold-Thirsk stretch to minimal timing points and presumably The Black Bull means Raskelf (The Old Black Bull)
Raskelf, Thormanby and Bagby Lane End looks like a pretty decent selection of timing points, given they they are respectively a small village, a hamlet and a road junction – there are only 4 other bus stops along that section of the A19, none of which serve anywhere of note or more than about 3 houses. What stops would you want added?
 

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Yes, I've seen a short on YouTube suggesting it's now withdrawn. I suppose they can't last forever unfortunately.
It looks that way…

Image is from ‘bustimes.org’ showing last workings as Mon 10/3, with the fleet number and registration mark crossed through as per withdrawn vehicles.
 

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2716 is withdrawn and the rest of the Presidents along with the 52 reg ex Arriva London North Geminis acquired with Rosso are all to be withdrawn at Keighleyy as 20 second hand double deckers have been acquired to replace them. The first ten being 12 and 62 reg Enviro 400s from London - Source Paul Turner on Facebook
Raskelf, Thormanby and Bagby Lane End looks like a pretty decent selection of timing points, given they they are respectively a small village, a hamlet and a road junction – there are only 4 other bus stops along that section of the A19, none of which serve anywhere of note or more than about 3 houses. What stops would you want added?
Just an observation that they had cut them back.
 

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Just an observation that they had cut them back.
The only stop they have downgraded from being a timing point is Birdforth. The other stops that are listed on the current timetable are not served by the revised route (most of them will be served by the 32 instead).
 

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Considering the Presidents used to be used on normal service work as well as their main use which was School duties what are the chances that the replacement former London E400s could find their way onto normal service work when not needed for Schools?
 
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Considering the Presidents used to be used on normal service work as well as their main use which was School duties what are the chances that the replacement former London E400s could find their way onto normal service work when not needed for Schools?
Assuming they receive fleet or generic "Transdev Go" livery the chances are very high based on what happens with the current fleet. It's only in the unlikely event they receive some sort of schools livery that they wouldn't appear in normal service sometimes.
 

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Ex-Reliance Volvo Eclipse Urban 30 is now at Transdev and has received fleet number 1771, along with temporary "I'm Joining York & Country" stickers.

2774 has reportedly transferred from Harrogate to Coastliner. Waiting for repaint.

We're also getting minor timetable changes to the 20, 24 & 25 in York from 6 April:
To help us run as reliably as possible for you with changing travel and congestion patterns, we're making some changes to our local routes in York from 6 April.

There will be minor changes to the 20, 24 and 25 to help us run as possible.

Unfortunately nothing for the 19, which definitely needs better timings coming down Leeman Road.
 
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Two should be replaced by the two mild-hybrid Citaros due at Harrogate (for the X98/X99 - the other thirteen are for Flyer services of course), and once things settle down I can't imagine the other handful will remain much longer.
 

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Two should be replaced by the two mild-hybrid Citaros due at Harrogate (for the X98/X99 - the other thirteen are for Flyer services of course), and once things settle down I can't imagine the other handful will remain much longer.
Thanks for that- do you know what fleet number scheme they'll use and if they are second hand what will the regs be?
 

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Thanks for that- do you know what fleet number scheme they'll use and if they are second hand what will the regs be?
The Citaros are 1501-15, due over the next month or two according to posts elsewhere - brand new.

They will be followed by the 15 eCitaros due at Keighley for the 662, which are due "in the summer".
 

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Two should be replaced by the two mild-hybrid Citaros due at Harrogate (for the X98/X99 - the other thirteen are for Flyer services of course), and once things settle down I can't imagine the other handful will remain much longer.
With the lack of reliability of the Volvo 7900Es think they are trying to hang onto them as long as possible although that back fired last week when having sent one out to fill in for a failed 7900E the Eclipse managed just one trip and so the 2 & 3 had continuing spells of a 40 minute gap. Not sure if its correct but the West Yorkshire Information Service fleetlist (accessible at www.wyis.org.uk) has no indication of 1853 as to be transferred elsewhere or disposed of. Could be cover for the two Geminis and the two expected Merc Hybrids on the X98/X99.
 

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Assuming they receive fleet or generic "Transdev Go" livery the chances are very high based on what happens with the current fleet. It's only in the unlikely event they receive some sort of schools livery that they wouldn't appear in normal service sometimes.
Funny you should say that... A couple of weeks ago I saw a bus in the West Yorkshire "MyBus" schools livery operating on Denby Darts D1. Didn't note the reg as I was driving and I'm not up on types, but it did strike me as unusual.
 

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Funny you should say that... A couple of weeks ago I saw a bus in the West Yorkshire "MyBus" schools livery operating on Denby Darts D1. Didn't note the reg as I was driving and I'm not up on types, but it did strike me as unusual.
The Harrogate 'Star' fleet of 86 seater school buses are used on normal services on occasions
 

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The Harrogate 'Star' fleet of 86 seater school buses are used on normal services on occasions
Indeed one is tracking at the moment. Though whether the eVolvo it replaced had actually failed I cannot say, it could simply have been a ticket machine swap. Nevertheless I have travelled on a Star bus on local service myself and I fully expect such opportunities to arise again.
 

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Funny you should say that... A couple of weeks ago I saw a bus in the West Yorkshire "MyBus" schools livery operating on Denby Darts D1. Didn't note the reg as I was driving and I'm not up on types, but it did strike me as unusual.
I presume this was one of the deckers in old Rosso livery. They put MyBus logos on them when they replaced some yellow school buses at Keighley, and some subsequently ended up in Huddersfield
 

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