Transpennine Route Upgrade and Electrification updates

[jonesy3001]

\it's been saying 40% for months, I think.

Still does;

manchestertostalybridge.co.uk

This domain may be for sale!

manchestertostalybridge.co.uk

 

[td97]

Is there works still ongoing or are they waiting for the next announcement to carry on with the OLE works?

They've been doing track renewals east of Victoria lately. Such as

https://twitter.com/TheGNRP/status/1490406427659321350?t=Qx9OMwqY4VXOSCU5sS8FKg&s=19

If the Stalybridge OLE ends at Waterloo, does that imply that Stalybridge Tunnel (i.e. beneath Stamford St) remains unwired

As part of W1 works, yes. W2 is to include Stalybridge Tunnel

 

[jonesy3001]

They've been doing track renewals east of Victoria lately. Such as

https://twitter.com/TheGNRP/status/1490406427659321350?t=Qx9OMwqY4VXOSCU5sS8FKg&s=19

As part of W1 works, yes. W2 is to include Stalybridge Tunnel

Not on twitter as got my account suspended for having an opinion.
They must be renewing the tracks before do anything else.

 

[snowball]

I'm not on Twitter either but it lets me see that tweet before it puts up a banner.

No doubt the track replacement is part of the same programme that replaced the underbridges last year.


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Press release

Manchester rail upgrades continue for the multi-billion-pound Transpennine Route Upgrade

Network Rail is continuing major railway upgrades between Manchester and Stalybridge This is part of the Transpennine Route Upgrade which will see the line fully electrified and bring faster, more frequent and reliable trains in the future Buses and diversions will keep passengers moving...

www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk

Major railway upgrades between Manchester and Stalybridge will continue this month as part of the multi-billion-pound Transpennine Route Upgrade.

Network Rail will install new trackside columns – which will eventually carry train-powering electric wires – renew one mile of track and upgrade the signalling equipment over the next few months.

This is part of the Transpennine Route Upgrade, which will bring faster, more frequent trains between York and Manchester via Leeds and Huddersfield.

Two bridges in Ashton-under-Lyne – Southampton Street and Granville Street – will also be upgraded by Network Rail. Raising the height of both bridges will eventually allow electric wires to pass beneath them, making way for a cleaner, greener railway in the future.

Sections of the railway will need to be closed to carry out the work safely. Buses and diversions will be in place to keep passengers moving throughout weekends in February, March, April and May – with more work planned for later in the year. Passengers should plan ahead with National Rail Enquiries or their train operator.

 

[jonesy3001]

Alternate weekends for both guide bridge and the Victoria lines for the upgrades, nice.

 

[snowball]

Two bridges in Ashton-under-Lyne – Southampton Street and Granville Street – will also be upgraded by Network Rail.

I've checked two online and two offline maps but can't find Southampton Street. Anyone know where it is?

 

[59CosG95]

I've checked two online and two offline maps but can't find Southampton Street. Anyone know where it is?

It's here, on the Guide Bridge - Stalybridge line:

 

[snowball]

Thank you!

 

[Viscount702]

Granville Street Bridge over the Ashton to Stalybridge line was rebuilt in 2015 for electrification. Could this latest reference be to the extension of Granville Street as a pedestrian bridge over the Guide Bridge line.

 

[snowball]

It all seems to fit with the Guide Bridge line, once dropped from the scheme, having been added back in relatively recently.

 

[59CosG95]

Granville Street Bridge over the Ashton to Stalybridge line was rebuilt in 2015 for electrification. Could this latest reference be to the extension of Granville Street as a pedestrian bridge over the Guide Bridge line.

Almost certainly. Those 2 appear to be the only 2 overbridges on the Guide Bridge line too. IIRC Stamford St East is the last remaining bridge to be done on the route to Victoria.

 

[Viscount702]

The bridge at Sunnyside Lane was supposed to be replaced over the Christmas blockade. Was it done because I don't believe we have had any reports that it was.

 

[59CosG95]

The bridge at Sunnyside Lane was supposed to be replaced over the Christmas blockade. Was it done because I don't believe we have had any reports that it was.

See this LinkedIn post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/tony...heringsteel-activity-6875074988928585728-fTf0

 

[Viscount702]

Thanks for that.

 

[snowball]

Anyone know what works are required at Katherine Street tunnel under the A670?

 

[swt_passenger]

Thank you!

Took some finding on the old NLS maps side by side view, had to go back to 1914 to find Southampton St exactly where “Mabs Court” is now. Presumably the railway bridge has kept its original name and the streets have moved on?

Seriously though, isn’t it possible that an out of date name could lead to confusion in emergency, eg if fire or ambulance staff were needed? Or do they just use grid references etc.

 

[snowball]

It's been my impression in other cases that the railway probably works from its own maps which show names for streets etc which were current when the railway was built, while the towns around them have been redeveloped.

 

[GRALISTAIR]

@LDECRexile and @wrinkley went on a jaunt today and sent me a report which I post here verbatim.


Wrinkley and I did a Wigan-Bolton-Stalybridge railtour today.

Our observations were: The approach appears to be to work from Manchester to Stalybridge. We could see very little evidence of electrification work east of Ashton, though some newish bridges might "count".
There are now some masts and portals at the Manchester end which we didn't see on our last visit about a month ago. There also appeared to be more bases in place, but we can't be audited on that!

 

[Viscount702]

I notice that the TRU page on the NR website has now been updated to cover some of the work mentioned in the press release. The page is messy still contains old outdated stuff but does included newer works and even identifys the bridges and when the work is to be done.

 

[GRALISTAIR]

There is also a TWA response saying Rose Lane crossing closure did not need environmental mitigation.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1057066/proposed-rose-lane_level-crossing-closure-order.pdf

Dear Sir,
Transport and Works Act 1992
Transport and Works (Applications and Objections Procedure) (England and Wales)
Rules 2006 (“the Rules”)
Proposed Transport and Works Act Order for the Rose Lane Level Crossing
Closure Mitigation Scheme
1. Thank you for your letter of 11 January 2022 in which you requested a screening
decision under rule 7 of the above Rules as to whether an environmental impact
assessment (“EIA”) is required in respect of the proposed works to mitigate the closure of
three level crossings located within 1km length of line commencing circa 300m south-west
of Church Fenton station.

 

[59CosG95]

I notice that the TRU page on the NR website has now been updated to cover some of the work mentioned in the press release. The page is messy still contains old outdated stuff but does included newer works and even identifys the bridges and when the work is to be done.

The W1 Piling Tracker is still as yet un-updated, but the E1 Project Tracker PDF for March 2021 has been published.
For E1:

• track renewals are continuing all month (presumably on the Normantons)
• Sheet Piles are continuing to be installed around Colton Jn
• Sheet Pile Handrails are starting to be installed from Church Fenton to Colton, along with signal base foundations & walkways for the SPTs and Location Cabinets (LOCs).
• Culverts are being strengthened between Colton Jn & Bolton Percy
• Cables & Troughs are being installed from Dringhouses to Colton Jn
• and "OLE SPS Wiring Installation" is taking place at Church Fenton, Ulleskelf, Colton Jn (Braegate Lane) & Dringhouses (surprisingly!)

 

[Glenn1969]

Huddersfield train station to close for months as revamp starts

Commuters will be bussed to a new platform during Huddersfield Station remodelling

www.examinerlive.co.uk

Update on Huddersfield Station remodelling with dates after the planning application was approved by Kirklees this week

 

[td97]

Huddersfield train station to close for months as revamp starts

Commuters will be bussed to a new platform during Huddersfield Station remodelling

www.examinerlive.co.uk

Update on Huddersfield Station remodelling with dates after the planning application was approved by Kirklees this week

Full report page 77 onwards at https://democracy.kirklees.gov.uk/d...2 13.00 Strategic Planning Committee.pdf?T=10

 

[snowball]

How long has this page existed? Is it going to be a new centralised information source for the TRU?? Will it be as useless as the Stalybridge dashboard page (with which it shares a certain "look and feel")???

Home

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thetrupgrade.co.uk

COMING SOON​

Everything you will need to know about the Transpennine Route Upgrade

 

[GRALISTAIR]

First time I have seen it.

 

[Nicholas Lewis]

Huddersfield train station to close for months as revamp starts

Commuters will be bussed to a new platform during Huddersfield Station remodelling

www.examinerlive.co.uk

Update on Huddersfield Station remodelling with dates after the planning application was approved by Kirklees this week

There in no rush to get this wired up and commissioned from this comment

The railway sidings and maintenance yard will be used for five years, starting this year and running until 2027.

 

[Codville]

How long has this page existed? Is it going to be a new centralised information source for the TRU?? Will it be as useless as the Stalybridge dashboard page (with which it shares a certain "look and feel")???

Home

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thetrupgrade.co.uk

Domain was registered in November and the Wayback Machine started archiving it on the 4th of Feb.

 

[YorksLad12]

How long has this page existed? Is it going to be a new centralised information source for the TRU?? Will it be as useless as the Stalybridge dashboard page (with which it shares a certain "look and feel")???

First time I have seen it.

Domain was registered in November and the Wayback Machine started archiving it on the 4th of Feb.

Looks a little... off to me. Not because they're using WordPress (I use WordPress a lot). Just the fact that it isn't finished. Or started, really, there's only the home and contact pages, a few logos with links. That photo is a little odd as well, for a project that has electrification at its heart! If it's real it should have some more content, even if it was only started around the time that the IRP was sprung on everyone.

Their Twitter account has posted one tweet since the account was opened in June 2021, and their first follower was Leeds Station. Their first follows were Network Rail, National Rail Enquiries and... Leeds Station. So it might have come from the team based at Platform, on top of Leeds Station. Still a bit poor though.

 

[snowball]

There in no rush to get this wired up and commissioned from this comment

According to this document published as part of the papers for the TWAO application, spending on Huddersfield to Westtown is expected to be timed like this:

£479M in CP6 (the current period, ending March 2024)
£946M in CP7 (April 2024 - March 2029)
£34M in CP8 (begins April 2029).

 

[sjm77]

It's been my impression in other cases that the railway probably works from its own maps which show names for streets etc which were current when the railway was built, while the towns around them have been redeveloped.

Indeed, such as Deal Street being a railway location between Salford Central and Manchester Victoria. Today I believe the Deva Centre sits on the site of the old Deal Street!