D Mylchreest
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Always get a pang when a signal box is lost
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WesternBiker
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Indeed - that's a very clear explanation!
GRALISTAIR
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Yes, featured in the very latest Sarah Bell YouTube video posted today a few hours ago.
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superkev
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Nice to see progress too on Huddersfields Lantern roof which looks to be around a third complete.
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darylyates17
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Noticed the rear most doors on the 802s still don’t open at NLW is this due to the software still not being updated? would think it would have been updated by now.
Nicholas Lewis
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Thanks for posting update. I like the comment that demolition of the box was expected to be two days! If that was from TRU no wonder the project is going to take so long.
GRALISTAIR
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For comparison, Salwick signal box on the Preston-Blackpool scheme took about 2 hours!
YorksLad12
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Just as well @Batley Lad was there to capture its demise.
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Any reason why they have gone for 3 consectutive single weeks of blockades exclusive of weekends rather than one three week blockade inclusive of weekends?
YorkshireBear
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I have been wondering this too, seems it would be more efficient just to go for a 19 day blockade. Monday to Friday with two intermediate weekends....
Nicholas Lewis
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Perhaps there are possessions on the diversionary routes?
Jamesrob637
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Tuesday to Thursday is busier than ever with commuters.
YorkshireBear
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Particularly through Dewsbury which is very busy with commuters and doesn't feel that different to pre COVID.
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Maybe schedule engineering work on Sunday and Monday then.
KN94
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All 'Morley' engineering possessions have been weekdays rather than weekends. This was the strategy agreed between Network Rail and TOCs - mainly to protect weekend traffic which (rightly or wrongly) is considered larger / more significant than weekday traffic, plus...
...Calder Valley and Castleford diversions often take place on weekends. Whilst it appears that affected TOC's can handle those two diversions on the same weekend, I don't think triple diversions are workable outside of overnight services, nor two diversions back-to-back (Calder Valley + Normanton or Normanton + Castleford).
That being said, there is talk of some of these blocks becoming inclusive of weekends in the future and a significant multiple week block is planned.
Is it that commuters are fairly forced repeat customers whilst weekend customers are more likely to not come back? And the commuters pay up and get stuck on a bus whilst weekend traffic more likely to not go or go by train?
KN94
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Likely yes.
I think the local bus connections are 'better' between Leeds - Dewsbury - Huddersfield than Manchester - Huddersfield and Leeds - York (apart from the Coastliner) so there is still a public transport option for those who need to commute, alongside rail replacement buses. There is also, for some people, the option to work from home.
Whereas weekend leisure travellers often have little/no obligation to travel so just won't, or will drive.
Whether that is the correct or fair approach to take is a different conversation, and probably not one for this thread.
GRALISTAIR
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Thank you and welcome to the forum. I look forward to your further and future contributions.
Alexd
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To be fair, we have had a fair number of weekend closures between both Huddersfield and Manchester, and Huddersfield and Leeds, the most recent Jan/Feb this year
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While we're on the subject I've notice a few comments on local message boards that the mid-week possessions are proving unpopular with those living near the railway.
It's not because of the trains not running and being replaced by buses as such, it's the noise of the works. They could largely cope with weekend possessions, it's how things have long been done and so was the expected norm, and losing a bit of sleep overnight isn't a huge issue if you don't have to get up for work or school in the morning, but the mid-week possessions break that, and there's a good number of people who live near the line, and between Morley Tunnel and Dewsbury the line's in a narrow valley which has the effect of concentrating the noise, not unlike what some residents of Scarborough felt with the introduction of the 68s.
I wonder if a way forward for Network Rail might be to at least try consider school holiday times for mid-week works? Not just are kids not at school but more people take time off work then to look after them, and the roads and trains are generally a bit quieter as a result.
It's not because of the trains not running and being replaced by buses as such, it's the noise of the works. They could largely cope with weekend possessions, it's how things have long been done and so was the expected norm, and losing a bit of sleep overnight isn't a huge issue if you don't have to get up for work or school in the morning, but the mid-week possessions break that, and there's a good number of people who live near the line, and between Morley Tunnel and Dewsbury the line's in a narrow valley which has the effect of concentrating the noise, not unlike what some residents of Scarborough felt with the introduction of the 68s.
I wonder if a way forward for Network Rail might be to at least try consider school holiday times for mid-week works? Not just are kids not at school but more people take time off work then to look after them, and the roads and trains are generally a bit quieter as a result.
luvchocolate
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Does anyone know what TPU are doing with a recently acquired plot of land on a new development on Trinity Street in Huddersfield
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Ultimately, we need to spend taxpayer money wisely, its a balance where you will never ever satisfy everyone. P
NR in other areas have certainly targeted half-term weeks for 9-day blockades, however it has trade-offs and often areas will have half-terms offset so that not all the kids are off at once so you sometimes can't neatly pick 1 half-term week.
When major blocks are planned, the normal process is for NR to consider all the options first and then decide which is the best one. But sometimes 1 week just isn't enough, or the half-terms don't line up with some other requirement, etc, etc.
That's correct. However passing east of the site the other day, I thought I noticed a handful of what could have been mast bases
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There are some mast bases in the Deighton area definitely. Bit sporadic but there was some bases on Saturday.
You mean New North Road? Trinity Street is on the other side, the road that goes towards the HRI and the M62. Just seems like some kind of parking area for various vehicles when I've passed. Might well ve more too it than that though.
luvchocolate
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It's actually Trinity Street..Lidl have the site on the New North Road site..and the old infirmary the central plot. Thank you
61653 HTAFC
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The boundary of where Trinity Street (A640) ends and Westgate begins has always seemed a little foggy to me, and I'm Huddersfield born and bred. New North Road was severed by the construction of the ring road (before my time) so it can be a bit confusing. For example the "New North Road Baptist Church" which appears to be on the corner of Westgate/Trinity Street and the ring road itself despite the name (the "front" of the building is on the other side, facing the stub of New North Road). The two parts of New North Road are now (i) the dead-end stub inside the ring road from which the goods depot and Brian Jackson Centre are accessed; and (ii) the ersatz-sliproad that leads from the clockwise side of the ring road round the bottom side of the Technical College/Lidl site and leads to Halifax Road (A629).
Trinity Street starts at the Olde Hatte and continues to the roundabout at the bottom of Marsh.