Travelling from euston to Waterloo

[GazUk]

Hello all

I'm travelling today through London, and I was wondering what is the quickest route is between euston and Waterloo?
I have an hour and 5 minutes to get from euston (where my vt arrives) to catch my (swt) train from Waterloo will that give enough time to travel on the tube between these 2 stations?

 

[Bletchleyite]

Yes, loads. It only just can't be done in 19 minutes (I once just missed a train doing just that)

Northern Line is the quickest way. The 59/68 bus (goes from the stop furthest left in the bus station) is also a nice scenic option and doesn't take all that much longer.

I imagine you could reasonably easily walk it in an hour!

Neil

 

[GazUk]

Hello Neil, well I don't know london that well to walk it (I'd get lost and end up in north london lol) and also my ticket that I have via the trainline is underground travel only (not buses :/) but are you saying either way I should have ample amount of time to travel between the 2 stations?

Regards gaz

 

[ainsworth74]

You could travel from Euston to Waterloo to Euston and back to Waterloo in the time you have and still not be rushing for your train! Either Northern Line as above or alternatively Victoria Line to Oxford Circus and then Bakerloo Line to Waterloo.

 

[yorkie]

Hare you saying either way I should have ample amount of time to travel between the 2 stations?

Yes, loads of time.

If your train is very late and you miss it, you're entitled to take the next available train irrespective of ticket(s) held, in my opinion. Though without knowing details, it is difficult to advise.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Hello Neil, well I don't know london that well to walk it (I'd get lost and end up in north london lol) and also my ticket that I have via the trainline is underground travel only (not buses :/) but are you saying either way I should have ample amount of time to travel between the 2 stations?

Yes, tons of time.

If you did fancy the walk, it's surprisingly straightforward, take a look at a Google map. But if you have luggage the Tube is more than adequate. I'd recommend taking the bus were it not for the fact you now need an Oyster or contactless card to pay for it, as cash is no longer accepted (the view from Waterloo Bridge is worth a couple of quid on its own).

By the way for future reference don't buy tickets from the Trainline, you are charged a booking fee that you wouldn't be charged if you bought the same ticket from a TOC (VT or SWT).

Neil

 

[Domh245]

Northern line to waterloo is going to be quickest. Luckily, that would involve getting the charring cross branch, as the down escalator to the victoria line and northern line (bank branch) is currently not in use.

 

[GazUk]

Yes, tons of time.

If you did fancy the walk, it's surprisingly straightforward, take a look at a Google map. But if you have luggage the Tube is more than adequate. I'd recommend taking the bus were it not for the fact you now need an Oyster or contactless card to pay for it, as cash is no longer accepted (the view from Waterloo Bridge is worth a couple of quid on its own).

By the way for future reference don't buy tickets from the Trainline, you are charged a booking fee that you wouldn't be charged if you bought the same ticket from a TOC (VT or SWT).

Neil

I got a really cheap ticket (£35 for first class on both vt and swt routes) but i can only catch the trains that are specified time wise on my tickets,thanks for the info and help all

 

[Bletchleyite]

I got a really cheap ticket (£35 for first class on both vt and swt routes) but i can only catch the trains that are specified time wise on my tickets,thanks for the info and help all

You could buy exactly the same ticket from any TOC site without paying fees. Don't be taken by the Trainline publicity - it is garbage. They have no access to fares anyone else doesn't.

Neil

 

[Wolfie]

Hello all

I'm travelling today through London, and I was wondering what is the quickest route is between euston and Waterloo?
I have an hour and 5 minutes to get from euston (where my vt arrives) to catch my (swt) train from Waterloo will that give enough time to travel on the tube between these 2 stations?

Gaz

Neil is right BUT for clarity you want the Northern Line Charing Cross branch southbound - definitely NOT the Northern Line City branch southbound - both branches go through Euston....

Should there be problems on the Northern Line (hardly unheard of!) your fall back is the Victoria Line Southbound to Oxford Circus then an easy change, as the platforms are parallel, onto the Bakerloo Line southbound. That change is probably the easiest on the whole tube network - I do it at least twice most days!!

Edited to add: That will teach me to read all of the thread first - all of the information was already posted albeit I hope to have at least consolidated well.

Northern line to waterloo is going to be quickest. Luckily, that would involve getting the charring cross branch, as the down escalator to the victoria line and northern line (bank branch) is currently not in use.

A valid comment - indeed I would be tempted to take the Victoria Line one stop north (hence you would be able to use an escalator) to Kings Cross and then swap to the southbound Victoria Line if you have luggage and there are Northern Line Charing Cross branch issues.

 

[Nym]

The southbound escalators are done, now itw on the northbounds...

 

[Abpj17]

You could travel from Euston to Waterloo to Euston and back to Waterloo in the time you have and still not be rushing for your train! Either Northern Line as above or alternatively Victoria Line to Oxford Circus and then Bakerloo Line to Waterloo.

lol, that would probably be chancing it with luggage and risk of delays tho

 

[yorkie]

I got a really cheap ticket (£35 for first class on both vt and swt routes) but i can only catch the trains that are specified time wise on my tickets,thanks for the info and help all

If you'd used almost any other website, there would have been no fees. And the price of the ticket would have been the same.

So the cheap ticket was nothing to do with thetrainline. Next time, don't get fleeced

 

[mirodo]

I know we're going off topic here (and going over old ground), but the trainline really hack me off. The last time I booked tickets through work (no choice of who we buy from, alas), there was

a) a Payment card fee of £1.85
b) a "total ticket arrangement fee" of £1.00
c) a booking fee of £1.85

I'm at a loss to understand the difference between b) and c) ... anyone got any ideas?

 

[telstarbox]

On a related topic to the OP: if travelling from the Southeastern network to Euston, is it quicker to change onto the Northern Line at London Bridge or Charing Cross?

 

[rebmcr]

On a related topic to the OP: if travelling from the Southeastern network to Euston, is it quicker to change onto the Northern Line at London Bridge or Charing Cross?

Quicker from Charing Cross.

Even when heading from the eastern Jubilee (docklands), it's still about 1-2 minutes quicker to stay on past London Bridge (Bank branch) and change at Waterloo instead (Charing X branch).

 

[Busaholic]

Quicker from Charing Cross.

Even when heading from the eastern Jubilee (docklands), it's still about 1-2 minutes quicker to stay on past London Bridge (Bank branch) and change at Waterloo instead (Charing X branch).

Yes and no - as someone who did that journey for many years, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush i.e. if you don't get off at London Bridge and then have to wait five minutes for a platform to become vacant at Charing Cross then you kick yourself. Coming back, I always went to Charing Cross (better chance of a seat) unless there were delays on that branch of the Northern. Actually, I often caught the bus to/from Charing Cross - had a choice of three routes in those days, as against one now, and could go direct to my office!

 

[DynamicSpirit]

Quicker from Charing Cross.

Even when heading from the eastern Jubilee (docklands), it's still about 1-2 minutes quicker to stay on past London Bridge (Bank branch) and change at Waterloo instead (Charing X branch).

Getting slightly more off-topic, but is that quicker than staying on the jubilee line to Green Park and changing to the Victoria line (which I imagine involves a slightly shorter walk than changing at Waterloo)?

(I was slightly surprised today to find that to get from London Bridge to Finsbury park, TfL's website recommended Jubilee to Green Park then Victoria line, rather than Northern line City branch to Kings Cross then Victoria line, which seems more direct).

 

[Busaholic]

Getting slightly more off-topic, but is that quicker than staying on the jubilee line to Green Park and changing to the Victoria line (which I imagine involves a slightly shorter walk than changing at Waterloo)?

(I was slightly surprised today to find that to get from London Bridge to Finsbury park, TfL's website recommended Jubilee to Green Park then Victoria line, rather than Northern line City branch to Kings Cross then Victoria line, which seems more direct).

Even more direct to change at Moorgate, but not in the least surprised that TfL had 'forgotten' that!

 

[Kite159]

Even more direct to change at Moorgate, but not in the least surprised that TfL had 'forgotten' that!

Good luck getting a 313 service from Moorgate at the weekends

 

[rebmcr]

Getting slightly more off-topic, but is that quicker than staying on the jubilee line to Green Park and changing to the Victoria line (which I imagine involves a slightly shorter walk than changing at Waterloo)?

It's been a while since I looked into it but I seem to remember that route is the same "1-2 minutes longer than Waterloo" that London Bridge is.

 

[hassaanhc]

Getting slightly more off-topic, but is that quicker than staying on the jubilee line to Green Park and changing to the Victoria line (which I imagine involves a slightly shorter walk than changing at Waterloo)?

(I was slightly surprised today to find that to get from London Bridge to Finsbury park, TfL's website recommended Jubilee to Green Park then Victoria line, rather than Northern line City branch to Kings Cross then Victoria line, which seems more direct).

You do get stuff like that in other places too
Gallions Reach to Euston: About 5-10 minutes quicker to use Jubilee to Green Park for Victoria Line rather than the more obvious route via DLR to Bank
Hammersmith to Gallions Reach: About 5-10 minutes quicker to change to Jubilee Line at Westminster than to use DLR from Tower Gateway.

 

[Marton]

If you'd used almost any other website, there would have been no fees. And the price of the ticket would have been the same.

So the cheap ticket was nothing to do with thetrainline. Next time, don't get fleeced

EastCoast have a loyalty scheme and offer discounts on some fares or have web only fares.

The web only Scottish Executive is one good deal with flexibility on the return.


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[Daz28]

Quicker from Charing Cross.

Even when heading from the eastern Jubilee (docklands), it's still about 1-2 minutes quicker to stay on past London Bridge (Bank branch) and change at Waterloo instead (Charing X branch).

Tfl Journey Planner says that it is 12 minutes from London Bridge to Euston whereas it is 7 minutes from Charing Cross to Euston.

That would suggest that London Bridge to Charing Cross would need to be five minutes or less to make the Charing Cross option quicker. Most are timetabled for nine minutes and during a congested rush hour, they can often take longer, particularly if dispatch from London Bridge is delayed.

However you also need to consider that rush hour Northern Line from London Bridge will often mean you cannot get on the first train that arrives, and over-crowding will often lead to the entrance or barriers being temporarily closed. I've never had that problem at Charing Cross.

With so many variables and factors, whichever choice you make, you are always left wondering if the other option would have been quicker.

 

[Busaholic]

Good luck getting a 313 service from Moorgate at the weekends

Which would be one of three reasons not quoted by TfL, the other two being (a) not operated by TfL and (b) lesser frequency of service meaning average longer wait between trains.

Not so long ago, when the Waterloo and City was operated by British Rail and had no evening or Sunday service, London Transport Travel Enquiry Offices would not necessarily, if asked, quote this route from Waterloo to Bank!

 

[317 forever]

On a related topic to the OP: if travelling from the Southeastern network to Euston, is it quicker to change onto the Northern Line at London Bridge or Charing Cross?

If I am heading north I usually change at London Bridge for the Northern Line to Euston. When I am travelling south I usually use Charing Cross, as it is simpler to reach the rail platform and I am more likely to get a seat on the South Eastern train!

 

[snail]

I know we're going off topic here (and going over old ground), but the trainline really hack me off. The last time I booked tickets through work (no choice of who we buy from, alas), there was

a) a Payment card fee of £1.85
b) a "total ticket arrangement fee" of £1.00
c) a booking fee of £1.85

I'm at a loss to understand the difference between b) and c) ... anyone got any ideas?

It may be some kind of commission payment for management information. My work use a travel agent that usually works out dearer than getting tickets at a station but they say it's worth it to get detailed records of who is buying and what they are buying.

Or simply another Trainline rip off fee.

 

[Busaholic]

If I am heading north I usually change at London Bridge for the Northern Line to Euston. When I am travelling south I usually use Charing Cross, as it is simpler to reach the rail platform and I am more likely to get a seat on the South Eastern train!

The sensible solution favoured by many regular travellers over the years. Same applies to Camden Town too, which was also one of my regular haunts.