• Our booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk (powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

Trivia: Any lines that were built but never used?

Status
Not open for further replies.

ChiefPlanner

Established Member
Joined
6 Sep 2011
Messages
7,802
Location
Herts
Looks like someone's been in the tunnel with a camera...


One of the locals was going up there today......hope he got some snaps.

"The railway that nearly happened - twice" - a tale of railway politics and intrigue , involving at one time no less than the Barry Railway. The continuing expansion of the anthracite coalfield was expected to go on for ever , but the world changed after 1914.
 
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

Watershed

Veteran Member
Associate Staff
Senior Fares Advisor
Joined
26 Sep 2020
Messages
12,184
Location
UK
That connection at St Pancras from the MML to HS1, has that seen any use?
Only for engineering trains during possessions, I believe. I don't think the signalling was ever commissioned?
 

Bob Price

Member
Joined
8 Aug 2019
Messages
1,039
There was a pier built in Cardiff to serve steamers when the tide was out. The railway and station on it was only used for a very short time. The story can be seen here:
 

D6130

Established Member
Joined
12 Jan 2021
Messages
5,853
Location
West Yorkshire/Tuscany
As far as overly-optimistic railways go the I&FA is right up there with the best of them.
Had the Invergarry and Fort Augustus Railway achieved its original goal of reaching Inverness, I think there's a good chance that it would still have been open today....although the Highland Railway would have none of it, of course. Ironically, for the first three years of its short 30 year existance, the passenger service between Spean Bridge and Fort Augustus was operated by the Highland Railway, using its 4-4-0 tank locomotive no. 52 and a couple of elderly carriages. I wonder whether they were towed - or travelled under their own steam - from and to Perth via Crieff and the NBR/Caledonian connection at Crianlarich?
 

Thebaz

Member
Joined
24 Nov 2016
Messages
372
Location
Purley
Felin Fran to Gwaun Cae Gurwen via Pontardawe - partly completed from Felin Fran to Trebanos , and from Cwmgorse Branch Junction to Nantygasseg - former used for a local colliery and the latter festered until 1958 when it was refurbed for a new "superpit" known as Abernant.

The middle section had a tunnel and some hefty viaducts etc at GCG as well as 2 "ghost" stations ........not one of the best investments on the part of the GWR.
Interestingly the Bartholomew Half-Inch map available on NLS maps shows the line as complete
 

McRhu

Member
Joined
14 Oct 2015
Messages
449
Location
Lanark
Had the Invergarry and Fort Augustus Railway achieved its original goal of reaching Inverness, I think there's a good chance that it would still have been open today....although the Highland Railway would have none of it, of course. Ironically, for the first three years of its short 30 year existance, the passenger service between Spean Bridge and Fort Augustus was operated by the Highland Railway, using its 4-4-0 tank locomotive no. 52 and a couple of elderly carriages. I wonder whether they were towed - or travelled under their own steam - from and to Perth via Crieff and the NBR/Caledonian connection at Crianlarich?
If only.... We can only dream about a line all the way through the Great Glen. A dream ticket for me would've been Ballachullish to Inverness.
 

morrisobrien

Member
Joined
23 Aug 2017
Messages
129
There was a pier built in Cardiff to serve steamers when the tide was out. The railway and station on it was only used for a very short time. The story can be seen here:
Fascinating.I was employed by P.&A.Campbell,White Funnel Fleet, on their Paddle Steamers Bristol Queen and Cardiff Queen until their demise in the late 1960's.As stated in the film they ran from 'Cardiff Pier Head'......never knew this pier existed.
 

mmh

Established Member
Joined
13 Aug 2016
Messages
3,744
Leith Central must hold the record for shortest operating large terminus station - opened 1903 (I think) closed in 1951 to passengers - less than 50 years. Is there a shorter lived terminus?
Waterloo International?
 
Joined
3 Sep 2020
Messages
140
Location
Dublin
I also recently read André Brett's book about the history of New Zealand railways and there was an instance of finished passenger railway stations on a line that in the end only opened for freight services. Can't find the book right now to find it again though

There was at least one example of this (passenger stations built but line opened only for freight) in the UK - the Caledonian Railway's Newhaven-South Leith route (https://www.railscot.co.uk/Leith_New_Lines/index.php). No doubt there were others I'm unaware of.
 

Irascible

Established Member
Joined
21 Apr 2020
Messages
2,038
Location
Dyfneint
What is currently Falmouth Docks was the terminus for the entire line from Cornwall to Paddington for a whole three years. It did also close for a few years too, but a long long time after it became a mere branch terminus.

There's terminus stations that lost their use as the line extended further ( not including ones which simply became through stations ), but that's cheating a bit I think.
 

Rescars

Established Member
Joined
25 May 2021
Messages
1,213
Location
Surrey
What is currently Falmouth Docks was the terminus for the entire line from Cornwall to Paddington for a whole three years. It did also close for a few years too, but a long long time after it became a mere branch terminus.

There's terminus stations that lost their use as the line extended further ( not including ones which simply became through stations ), but that's cheating a bit I think.
This may be straying a bit from the OP, but there were also those termini intended to be temporary whilst permanent facilities were constructed or junction / running power issues were resolved. Examples include Bishops Bridge Road (Paddington) and Nine Elms (Waterloo). These were used by passengers, but only for a short period before being repurposed or demolished entirely. These weren't just a feature in big cities but could be needed in more remote locations - Castle Douglas St Andrews for instance. Other will surely be able to suggest further examples.
 

Gloster

Established Member
Joined
4 Sep 2020
Messages
8,554
Location
Up the creek
This may be straying a bit from the OP, but there were also those termini intended to be temporary whilst permanent facilities were constructed or junction / running power issues were resolved. Examples include Bishops Bridge Road (Paddington) and Nine Elms (Waterloo). These were used by passengers, but only for a short period before being repurposed or demolished entirely. These weren't just a feature in big cities but could be needed in more remote locations - Castle Douglas St Andrews for instance. Other will surely be able to suggest further examples.
Although they weren’t always intended to be temporary: many of the early lines just saw themselves as a local company running from A to B. It was only later as they expanded or were taken over that plans to extend their line, which might involve building a new station on a different site, saw the closure of the old station.
 

Stephen1001

Member
Joined
7 May 2020
Messages
74
Location
Cheltenham
A particularly extreme example from Spain: La Línea, the frontier town on the border with Gibraltar, had a line authorised and construction started in 1893. It was finally finished in the 1970s. It's still there and still hasn't had a train over it.
 

Ken H

On Moderation
Joined
11 Nov 2018
Messages
6,352
Location
N Yorks
Alan Jacksons 'London's Termini' documents the temporary termini. ISBN 0715386344
 

Thebaz

Member
Joined
24 Nov 2016
Messages
372
Location
Purley
A particularly extreme example from Spain: La Línea, the frontier town on the border with Gibraltar, had a line authorised and construction started in 1893. It was finally finished in the 1970s. It's still there and still hasn't had a train over it.
Looks like they didn't bother build the station at La Linea. The line stops in a seemingly random place although there does appear to be a fair bit of extant land which was perhaps originally intended as a railway corridor into the centre of the city.
 

Attachments

  • La Linea FIN.png
    La Linea FIN.png
    2.1 MB · Views: 54

SeanG

Established Member
Joined
4 May 2013
Messages
1,192
Although abroad, this Tim Traveller video fits the bill

 

robert thomas

Member
Joined
2 Jun 2019
Messages
276
Location
Neath
The link from Pontrhydyfen to the South Wales Mineral Railway was completed but never used. It is now a footpath/Forestry Road.
 

Signal_Box

Member
Joined
25 Dec 2021
Messages
657
Location
UK
Isn't the Didcot Railway Centre rail locked? Sure I've seen a pic of a steam engine been tripped to there to be loaded onto a lorry for further movement.

South Marston is a few miles east of Swindon. I don’t think it’s ever had any commercial traffic, may of had a promotional train in there at the very beginning though.

Yes, Didcot GWS is rail locked. Everything of bulk has to be tripped by DBC from the centre to the loco servicing centre outside TVSC where the GWS have their own sidings equipped for roading out vehicles.

Previously the trip would go down to a industrial siding at Milton next to the power station.
 

King Lazy

Member
Joined
24 Apr 2019
Messages
60
Depending on the criteria for ‘built’ I would suggest the following two examples.

The Furness railway built a line from Plumpton Junction at Ulverston to Conishead Priory. This line was known as the Bardsea branch indicating it was expected to continue beyond Conishead to Bardsea and Barrow in Furness.

The line to Conishead was used by trains but they also ‘built’ the alignment beyond there but never laid track.

Near Lostock station the Lancashire and Yorkshire railway built an alignment which would’ve created the third side of a triangle connecting the present day Euxton Junction to Bolton and Lostock Junction to Wigan (Westhoughton) lines.

There were sidings built curving off the Westhoughton line and had the new alignment been opened these would’ve had gained an additional exit to the line to Chorley and Euxton.

I believe the alignment was ‘built’ including culverts but track was never laid.
 

Mcr Warrior

Veteran Member
Joined
8 Jan 2009
Messages
11,997
Believe there was once a 20 mile "Ouse Valley Railway" proposed, and partly built, in the mid/late 1860s. Would have run through the Mid Sussex countryside between the South end of the Balcombe Viaduct (on the Brighton Main Line) towards Uckfield, the route passing through Lindfield (to the East of Haywards Heath).

Seems that the collapse of the line's bankers/financiers in 1866 essentially did for the scheme. Never completed.

More info here...

 

Pinza-C55

Member
Joined
23 May 2015
Messages
1,035
There was a line at Pilmoor on the ECML which connected the Knaresborough - Pilmoor and Pilmoor - Malton lines, crossing over the ECML by a bridge which was built but never used. Some sighting signals for driver training were placed on it and an LNER building which looked like a waiting room survived till the early 80s.
 

AzureOtsu

Member
Joined
2 Jan 2021
Messages
173
Location
Hove
Fort Augustus Pier Station wasn't particularly blessed with longevity: 3 years of passenger services (although remained opened longer for freight). As far as overly-optimistic railways go the I&FA is right up there with the best of them.
Heathrow Junction was only open for a few months
 

WesternBiker

Member
Joined
26 Aug 2020
Messages
609
Location
Farnborough
Believe there was once a 20 mile "Ouse Valley Railway" proposed, and partly built, in the mid/late 1860s. Would have run through the Mid Sussex countryside between the South end of the Balcombe Viaduct (on the Brighton Main Line) towards Uckfield, the route passing through Lindfield (to the East of Haywards Heath).

Seems that the collapse of the line's bankers/financiers in 1866 essentially did for the scheme. Never completed.

More info here...

Thank you for that - it is an area I have explored extensively on foot and by motorbike but this was a new one on me. Time for a repeat visit, clearly! There is more about the proposed line on Wikipedia: Ouse Valley Railway.
 
Last edited:

Mcr Warrior

Veteran Member
Joined
8 Jan 2009
Messages
11,997
Thank you for that - it is an area I have explored extensively on foot and by motorbike but this was a new on me. Time for a repeat visit, clearly! There is more about the proposed line on Wikipedia: Ouse Valley Railway.
Not an awful lot to see, but I do vaguely recall once passing by some overgrown "Ouse Valley Railway" embankments / bridge abutments on a linear walk from Balcombe to Haywards Heath well over a decade ago.
 

steamybrian

Established Member
Joined
26 Nov 2010
Messages
1,750
Location
Kent
Believe there was once a 20 mile "Ouse Valley Railway" proposed, and partly built, in the mid/late 1860s. Would have run through the Mid Sussex countryside between the South end of the Balcombe Viaduct (on the Brighton Main Line) towards Uckfield, the route passing through Lindfield (to the East of Haywards Heath).

Seems that the collapse of the line's bankers/financiers in 1866 essentially did for the scheme. Never completed.

More info here...


Not an awful lot to see, but I do vaguely recall once passing by some overgrown "Ouse Valley Railway" embankments / bridge abutments on a linear walk from Balcombe to Haywards Heath well over a decade ago.
For about a mile to the west of Uckfield there are sections of abandoned embankments and cuttings including the only completed bridge which is still in situ.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Top