Trivia, calling multiple times in different parts of the same station or station complex.

[plugwash]

The circle line of the London underground calls at Paddington twice, but in totally different parts of the station complex. Since the opening of crossrail Moorgate has been joined with Liverpool Street and Farringdon with barbican. So the Circle, Metropolatain and hammersmith and city lines make two calls in the farringdon/barbican complex immediately followed by two calls in the Moorgate/Liverpool St complex.

On the Tyne and wear metro the yellow line calls twice at Monument, once in the north/south direction and once in the east/west direction.

Does this happen anywhere else? In particular does it happen anywhere on the mainline system.

 

[fairysdad]

There are circular services from London Waterloo that probably count, starting and ending at Waterloo, and calling twice at both Vauxhall and Clapham Junction.

 

[D1537]

There are circular services from London Waterloo that probably count, starting and ending at Waterloo, and calling twice at both Vauxhall and Clapham Junction.

And other stations as well, i.e. Queenstown Road, Wandsworth, Putney and Barnes.

 

[A S Leib]

I can't think of any where they call at massively different parts of the same station, but some London Victoria / Brighton - Hastings trains serve Hampden Park twice and the Salisbury - Romsey service calls at Romsey twice.

 

[tomuk]

The Canon Street Clockers that run round the Bexleyheath ,Sidcup, Dartford, Woolwich lines

 

[zwk500]

One massive problem with this is what counts as a separate part of the station complex. E.g. I would count the Waterloo rounders as calling at 2 separate parts of Clapham Junction, but Vauxhall being the same part of the complex.

Having said that, pre-covid the SouthEastern High-speed rounders called once at the high level platforms at Ebbsfleet and once at the low-level platforms.

 

[Magdalia]

There are circular services from London Waterloo that probably count, starting and ending at Waterloo, and calling twice at both Vauxhall and Clapham Junction.

I can't think of any where they call at massively different parts of the same station, but some London Victoria / Brighton - Hastings trains serve Hampden Park twice and the Salisbury - Romsey service calls at Romsey twice.

The Kingston roundabout services go from the lowest numbered platforms at Waterloo to the highest numbered platforms, or vice versa. In the latter this often includes the ex Eurostar platforms, which are a different part of the station. At Clapham Junction the Windsor line platforms are quite separate from the rest of the station.

I'm very unfamiliar with what happens in Scotland these days: do Glasgow and Edinburgh still have circular services?

 

[Bill57p9]

Glasgow still has the Cathcart circle services, but I don't believe this would meet the "different parts" criteria.

The class 314 finale left Glasgow Central high level bound for Helensburgh and called at Glasgow Central Low Level.

Wirral services call twice at James Street and Birkenhead, using different platform blocks.

 

[DelW]

The early morning train from Plymouth to the Looe branch stops separately at Liskeard platforms 1, 2, and 3, where it terminates (subsequently forming the first train to Looe, with a different number). Platform 3 is at right angles to the main line platforms.

I don't know whether potential passengers through to Looe are allowed to stay on board, or if they have to walk from p1 to p3.

[Edit: just realised it has a 5 headcode, so presumably ECS anyway]

Realtime Trains | 5L69 0503 Plymouth to Liskeard | 08/06/2022

Real-time train running information for 5L69 0503 departure from Plymouth to Liskeard on 08/06/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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[DA1]

The Canon Street Clockers that run round the Bexleyheath ,Sidcup, Dartford, Woolwich lines

Only London Bridge and Cannon Street have the potential to be different platforms (but not different areas). All other stations will be called at once.

 

[Deafdoggie]

The early morning train from Plymouth to the Looe branch stops separately at Liskeard platforms 1, 2, and 3, where it terminates (subsequently forming the first train to Looe, with a different number). Platform 3 is at right angles to the main line platforms.

I don't know whether potential passengers through to Looe are allowed to stay on board, or if they have to walk from p1 to p3.

[Edit: just realised it has a 5 headcode, so presumably ECS anyway]

Realtime Trains | 5L69 0503 Plymouth to Liskeard | 08/06/2022

Real-time train running information for 5L69 0503 departure from Plymouth to Liskeard on 08/06/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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For some reason the line from the main station to P3 has never been passed for passenger use. To be fair, it hardly seems worth it.

 

[higthomas]

It's not in the UK, but in Paris Metro line 3 calls 3 times in the Saint-Lazare super complex!
It's the "vomit green" line below, calling at Opéra, Havre Caumartin & Saint-Lazare.

(From https://www.ratp.fr/plan-de-ligne/img/metro/Plan-Metro.1653922257.png)

 

[duncanp]

It's not in the UK, but in Paris Metro line 3 calls 3 times in the Saint-Lazare super complex!
It's the "vomit green" line below, calling at Opéra, Havre Caumartin & Saint-Lazare.
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(From https://www.ratp.fr/plan-de-ligne/img/metro/Plan-Metro.1653922257.png)

Also in Paris, there are separate stations on metro line 4 at Chatelet and Les Halles, but a combined RER stop at Chatelet Less Halles.

If Crossrail 2 is ever built (don't hold your breath) I see there is a planned Euston St Pancras station. This will compare with Kings Cross St Pancras on the tube.

Can't help thinking there is a recipe for confusion there. It happens already as I have been on the concourse at Kings Cross and someone once asked me why the train to Nottingham (leaving in 5 minutes time) wasn't on the departure board, and als where the Eurostar check in was.

 

[berwicksfinest]

Georgemas Junction !!!

 

[Basil Jet]

The Jubilee line stations at Southwark and Waterloo are both connected to Waterloo East.

 

[zwk500]

Georgemas Junction !!!

This is hardly different parts of the same complex though, given it calls at the same platform!

 

[61653 HTAFC]

And other stations as well, i.e. Queenstown Road, Wandsworth, Putney and Barnes.

Hounslow rounders would call at Queenstown Road twice, Kingston rounders just the once.

 

[reddragon]

The early morning train from Plymouth to the Looe branch stops separately at Liskeard platforms 1, 2, and 3, where it terminates (subsequently forming the first train to Looe, with a different number). Platform 3 is at right angles to the main line platforms.

I don't know whether potential passengers through to Looe are allowed to stay on board, or if they have to walk from p1 to p3.

Passengers are not allowed to travel from the main line to the Looe branch on any train including charter trains due to the lack of legality of the connection prohibiting it.

 

[SargeNpton]

Does this thread cover much the same ground...

Trivia: Services calling twice at the same station

This thread got me thinking: which passenger services call at the same station more than once, excluding services which circle back to where they came (e.g. Fife Circle, Dartford loop, Wirral lines)? The only current one I can think of is Far North with Georgemas Junction. Back in the 90s...

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[thenorthern]

There were a couple of Manchester Piccadilly to Manchester Piccadilly via Glossop trains that effectively went Dinting-Glossop-Hadfield-Dinting. I remember them as they read the Manchester Piccadilly to Dinting stations out twice in annoucements.

 

[AgeoftheTrain7]

I think that Merseyrail is a prime example of this - looping trains from Chester to Chester where every stop south of the City is stopped at twice!
Like this... https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:L69247/2022-06-08

 

[61653 HTAFC]

I can't think of any where they call at massively different parts of the same station, but some London Victoria / Brighton - Hastings trains serve Hampden Park twice and the Salisbury - Romsey service calls at Romsey twice.

Back when Cross Country services ran via the West Coast Main Line to Dundee or Aberdeen, they called at Haymarket twice either side of a reversal at Waverley.

 

[plugwash]

If Crossrail 2 is ever built (don't hold your breath) I see there is a planned Euston St Pancras station. This will compare with Kings Cross St Pancras on the tube.

And IIRC the HS2 works intend to link up Euston Square with Euston. So if everything is built as proposed you will have a mega-complex sprawling from Euston Square and HS2 in the West, to Kings Cross in the East with the Circle, Hammersmith and City, Metropolitan, Northern (Bank branch) and PiccadillyVictoria lines all calling twice within the complex.

 

[A S Leib]

Piccadilly lines

Victoria?

 

[plugwash]

oops sorry, I seem to mix those two up for some reason.

 

[Taunton]

The old Limerick Junction. "Where every train must go through it or past it before it can get into it".

 

[AlbertBeale]

International services via Basle in Switzerland used to call separately at the platforms "in" (for customs purposes) the different countries.

 

[30907]

Do Brighton diversions via Lewes call twice at the station? Or Waterloo-Reading diversions at Virginia Water? And are these within the OP's definition?

Historically, there were dated Blackpool-Scotland services that went through Preston twice (the East Lancs and LNW parts) and may have called twice.

 

[zwk500]

Do Brighton diversions via Lewes call twice at the station? Or Waterloo-Reading diversions at Virginia Water? And are these within the OP's definition?

As far as I know, both of these call only once at each station. Certainly at Lewes where the East Branch platforms are limited to 7 cars maximum.

 

[Kite159]

Passengers are not allowed to travel from the main line to the Looe branch on any train including charter trains due to the lack of legality of the connection prohibiting it.

There has been at least one charter train to use the connection at Liskeard with passengers on board, the Looe Brush tour on 3rd Feb 19

Six Bells Junction

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Do Brighton diversions via Lewes call twice at the station? Or Waterloo-Reading diversions at Virginia Water? And are these within the OP's definition?

Historically, there were dated Blackpool-Scotland services that went through Preston twice (the East Lancs and LNW parts) and may have called twice.

When I did a Waterloo - Reading train a few years ago which went via Weybridge it called at Virginia Water twice