Malcolmffc
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One that will hopefully be fixed by the end of the next decade:
Oxford to Cambridge
Oxford to Cambridge
When was it ever that quick??Altrincham to Manchester
11 then 13 minutes now about half an hour.
Also any journey that used that line such as Manchester to Derby or Leicester. Now one has to make a detour via Sheffield and change trainsBuxton to Matlock.
The Chester trains only stopped at Sale between Altrincham and Manchester did in 13 min on a good dayWhen was it ever that quick??
I don't think it was ever 11 minutes. It also only went to Central, so the equivalent journey time would now be 25 minutes by tram.The Chester trains only stopped at Sale between Altrincham and Manchester did in 13 min on a good day
Express services under the 1931 electrics.When was it ever that quick??
I stand corrected. Is that 11 minutes from Altrincham to Piccadilly?Express services under the 1931 electrics.
It was Central originally then Oxford Road.I stand corrected. Is that 11 minutes from Altrincham to Piccadilly?
I believe that the connection was only available to Queen Victoria. The track, single line of course, passed though the centre of the Waterloo (LSWR) concourse and was normally bridged by wooden flooring, and continued over what is now used as a footbridge over the road and onto the SE lines. Royal trains used it to go from Windsor to Kent or the Channel ports.
I expect it had such a severe speed limit and signalling delays that it would have been quicker to walk anyway.
Not the electrics, they were Piccadilly (or London Road), then Oxford RoadIt was Central originally then Oxford Road.
A relatively new one ironically created by a reopening: Tweedbank to Carlisle
As the question doesn't specify 'via National Rail', you could make it a bit longer with Buxton to Rowsley South (Peak Rail), or Buxton to Darley Dale if you don't count Rowsley South because it's not at the original site.Buxton to Matlock.
Templecombe - Bath
Would virtually any station west of Exeter, including Exmouth on the surviving ex SR lines and London be slower as previously served direct by the ACE, today either from Paddington to Exeter and change or Waterloo (stopping at all stations west of Salisbury) and again change at Exeter?
One that will hopefully be fixed by the end of the next decade:
Oxford to Cambridge
You are correct! I made that journey, from Cambridge to Oxford, in 1967 or thereabouts. The train was a 2 coach Cravens DMU and it took, as you say, about 2 1/2 hours - but it felt more like five. The train never exceeded about 50mph and vibrated, rattled and lurched the whole way.I doubt it, actually. Certainly not 'much quicker' as in the thread title. First of all, for most of the direct route's existence, there were hardly any through trains: you had to change at Bletchley. Even when they introduced a handful of through trains (about 3-4 years before closure), while I think these usually skipped the halts between Bletchley and Bedford, they were hardly fast. I'd guess the direct DMUs would take about 2.5 hours. If you had to change, the trip would take closer to 3 hours. How long would it take today, via KX and PAddington? And with a vastly superior frequency on all lines invovled?
Here's a snippet from the 1962/1963 timetable to confirm.I doubt it, actually. Certainly not 'much quicker' as in the thread title. First of all, for most of the direct route's existence, there were hardly any through trains: you had to change at Bletchley. Even when they introduced a handful of through trains (about 3-4 years before closure), while I think these usually skipped the halts between Bletchley and Bedford, they were hardly fast. I'd guess the direct DMUs would take about 2.5 hours. If you had to change, the trip would take closer to 3 hours.