Trivia: Which UK station has the most TOCs passing through?

[cr767055]

Hi everyone. Just a quick question about which train station has the most variety of Train Operating Companies passing through (stopping or non-stopping)? So far, Peterborough is the most I've found. Is this true, or is there another one?

Peterborough has

• CrossCountry
• EMR
• Great Northern
• LNER
• Govia Thameslink Railway (TL and GN)
• Grand Central
• Hull Trains

Edit: added open access operators.

 

[tornado]

Gomshall

 

[cr767055]

Gomshall

I've just checked that, it only has one operator going through it from what I can see on RTT.

 

[tornado]

a little joke it's the least likely candidate

 

[cr767055]

a little joke it's the least likely candidate

I thought so!

 

[Jorge Da Silva]

Hi everyone. Just a quick question about which train station has the most variety of Train Operating Companies passing through? So far, Peterborough is the most I've found. Is this true, or is there another one?

Peterborough has

• CrossCountry
• EMR
• Great Northern
• LNER
• Thameslink
• Greateranglia

Crewe has 5:

1. CrossCountry
2. LNWR/WMR
3. Avanti West Coast
4. Transport for Wales
5. Northern
6. Grand Central (from 2021)

also Peterborough has 5 not 6, Great Northern and Thameslink are both the same company Govia Thameslink but when you add Hull Trains and Grand Central it goes to 7.

 

[Peter0124]

Edinburgh Waverley Glasgow Central and Motherwell all have six different passenger TOC's aswell

Scotrail
Avanti
LNER
Cross Country
Transpennine Express
Caledonian Sleeper

EDIT: Haymarket only has 5 due to CS passing non stop

 

[cr767055]

Crewe has 5:

1. CrossCountry
2. LNWR/WMR
3. Avanti West Coast
4. Transport for Wales
5. Northern
6. Grand Central (from 2021)

also Peterborough has 5 not 6, Great Northern and Thameslink are both the same company Govia Thameslink but when you add Hull Trains and Grand Central it goes to 7.

That's a good point. I forgot about the open access operators and that GTR is a group.

 

[kieron]

Do you count TOCs whose trains always (or almost always) stop when they get to the station with passengers on them, or just ones which go through without stopping?
And do you count stations at which trains for a TOC always terminate, or only ones they go through in the course of a journey?
Finally, do you count differently branded trains operated by a train company, or just ones operated by different train companies?

Edge Hill has trains from 6 train companies (Transpennine Express, Northern, Transport for Wales, London Northwestern Railway, East Midlands Trains and Avanti) pass through it non-stop, anyway.

 

[BeHereNow]

Crewe has 5:

1. CrossCountry
2. LNWR/WMR
3. Avanti West Coast
4. Transport for Wales
5. Northern
6. Grand Central (from 2021)

also Peterborough has 5 not 6, Great Northern and Thameslink are both the same company Govia Thameslink but when you add Hull Trains and Grand Central it goes to 7.

Crewe also has Caledonian Sleeper and EMT.

Doncaster has 6 - LNER, GC, Hull, Cross Country, TransPennine, Northern

 

[cr767055]

Do you count TOCs whose trains always (or almost always) stop when they get to the station with passengers on them, or just ones which go through without stopping?

Both, ones that go through and stop.

And do you count stations at which trains for a TOC always terminate, or only ones they go through in the course of a journey?

Both as well.

Finally, do you count differently branded trains operated by a train company, or just ones operated by different train companies?

Different branded, because even though South Western Railway is so bad in my opinion, Avanti West Coast aren't. You could see them on the surface as different companies.

 

[Jorge Da Silva]

Crewe also has Caledonian Sleeper and EMT.

Yes so that makes it 7 or 8 from next year

 

[pdeaves]

This was discussed recently. Stockport came high on the list, I believe.

 

[Peter0124]

Both, ones that go through and stop.

In that case, my local station: Newton (Lanark) also has 6 TOCs passing through it, same as Glasgow/Motherwell/Edinburgh

 

[cr767055]

This was discussed recently. Stockport came high on the list, I believe.

Yup, Stockport has AWC, CrossCountry, EMR, Transpennine Express, TfW and Northern.

 

[pdeaves]

Different branded, because even though South Western Railway is so bad in my opinion, Avanti West Coast aren't. You could see them on the surface as different companies.

Those are separate companies, branding is nothing to do with it. I think the statement was more about GTR being one company but four brands (Southern, Great Northern, Thameslink, Gatwick Express), or SWR being one company but two brands (SWR and Island line).

 

[cr767055]

Those are separate companies, branding is nothing to do with it. I think the statement was more about GTR being one company but four brands (Southern, Great Northern, Thameslink, Gatwick Express), or SWR being one company but two brands (SWR and Island line).

Oh got it, I thought they were referring to parent companies of larger organisations e.g FirstGroup.

 

[Glenn1969]

Leeds

EMR
LNER
Northern
TPE
Cross Country

 

[Fawkes Cat]

Do you count TOCs whose trains always (or almost always) stop when they get to the station with passengers on them, or just ones which go through without stopping?
And do you count stations at which trains for a TOC always terminate, or only ones they go through in the course of a journey?
Finally, do you count differently branded trains operated by a train company, or just ones operated by different train companies?

Edge Hill has trains from 6 train companies (Transpennine Express, Northern, Transport for Wales, London Northwestern Railway, East Midlands Trains and Avanti) pass through it non-stop, anyway.

Both, ones that go through and stop.

So since termini can count, if we go one station further down the line it turns out that Liverpool Lime Street is served by the same six companies - and we can add Merseyrail to give seven (which if I remember rightly was the winning answer the last time we did this one).

 

[johnnychips]

Crewe also has Caledonian Sleeper and EMT.

Doncaster has 6 - LNER, GC, Hull, Cross Country, TransPennine, Northern

Doncaster has 7 - add EMR.

 

[cr767055]

So since termini can count, if we go one station further down the line it turns out that Liverpool Lime Street is served by the same six companies - and we can add Merseyrail to give seven (which if I remember rightly was the winning answer the last time we did this one).

Peterborough has open access operators though. That would mean it is at 7.

 

[Glenn1969]

Sorry but operators that don't stop don't serve the station. GC has never called at Peterborough

 

[cr767055]

Sorry but operators that don't stop don't serve the station. GC has never called at Peterborough

But Hull Trains and Grand Central run through it. I was just wondering which ones pass, not stop. I may have not been too clear.

 

[Roverebbw]

Peterborough also have Greater Anglia there going to Ipswich

 

[PHILIPE]

This was discussed recently. Stockport came high on the list, I believe.

That's right. It does the rounds every few months

 

[yorkie]

That's right. It does the rounds every few months

Yes, with variations on whether it includes non-stop trains.

Certainly for stopping trains Doncaster and Crewe have been tied for 7 for several years.

Loads of previous threads can be found if you search for them: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=station+most+tocs+calling+site:railforums.co.uk

 

[kieron]

Oh got it, I thought they were referring to parent companies of larger organisations e.g FirstGroup.

Sorry; I did think about giving an example, but didn't in the end. It's hard to describe what a train company is, though. You've got ones run by the government (such an Northern), ones which are privately managed with various amounts of government input into how they run the business (like GWR or GTR) and ones which haven't promised the government that they'll ever run another train again (e.g. Hull Trains).

Certainly for stopping trains Doncaster and Crewe have been tied for 7 for several years.

For the purposes of this particular thread, Peterborough is the winner with 8.

Doncaster, Crewe, Liverpool Lime Street and Liverpool South Parkway (which does get the odd TPE train passing through) only have 7.

 

[Jorge Da Silva]

Sorry; I did think about giving an example, but didn't in the end. It's hard to describe what a train company is, though. You've got ones run by the government (such an Northern), ones which are privately managed with various amounts of government input into how they run the business (like GWR or GTR) and ones which haven't promised the government that they'll ever run another train again (e.g. Hull Trains).

For the purposes of this particular thread, Peterborough is the winner with 8.

Doncaster, Crewe, Liverpool Lime Street and Liverpool South Parkway (which does get the odd TPE train passing through) only have 7.

Peterborough is 7 also???

• CrossCountry
• EMR
• Great Anglia
• LNER
• Govia Thameslink Railway (TL and GN)
• Grand Central
• Hull Trains

 

[sk688]

New Street ?

LNWR
WMT
Avanti
CrossCountry
Transport for Wales

Nuneaton when Grand Centeal starts

LNWR
WMT
Avanti
crosscountry
Grand central

 

[MotCO]

Does the CS Sleeper go through Peterborough when on diversion? Would that count?