TV Licence

[Kier]

Sao Paolo runs this website

www.tvlicenceresistance.info/

Whilst Mr Chadkirk has a vested interest in the Beeb:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/filmnetwork//users/42085118

So both clearly have their own agendas here.

 

[ralphchadkirk]

I think running an anti-BBC website is a bigger vested interest than registering, but then deciding against entering a film competition nearly 4 years ago!


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[yorksrob]

WRONG, thats the excuse used but how do they keep buying up companies year in and year out...............or does BBC Worldwide have a money tree in the Blue Peter garden ?

I'm not really concerned about the ins and outs of it - suffice to say if they can make money by flogging things abroad, I'm all for it. If it costs us money above the cost of domestic programming, I'm not.

Frankly I've never studied the BBC accounts myself so I wouldn't presume to know one way or another. Since you've not given any indication that you have some intimate knowledge of the BBC's accounts, I'll presume that neither do you.

WRONG AGAIN, thats another BBC pitch because the taxpayer funds that too.

Why should the British taxpayer be funding other countries:roll:

If you had read my previous posts correctly you would have noted that I am well aware that the World Service has always been a BBC "pitch" and that it has always been funded by the taxpayer. It has, however, always had a distinct role in promoting British cultural influence abroad rather than providing domestic entertainment, and for this reason it has up until recently, always been funded by the foreign office whose purpose it is to promote British interests abroad, rather than through the license fee.

 

[MikeWh]

Sao Paolo runs this website

www.tvlicenceresistance.info/

This whole thread now begins to make a helluva lot more sense. And because of it I'm now deemed by Google to be interested in TV Licensing as I keep getting ads appearing on websites I visit. Oh joy!

 

[hantsman1205]

I think running an anti-BBC website is a bigger vested interest than registering, but then deciding against entering a film competition nearly 4 years ago!

The problem is that you are giving incorrect facts re the BBC.

 

[Sao Paulo]

Sao Paolo runs this website

www.tvlicenceresistance.info/

Whilst Mr Chadkirk has a vested interest in the Beeb:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/filmnetwork//users/42085118

So both clearly have their own agendas here.

I just like to make sure the facts get through and not some Fishburn Hedges PR. I help people who are harassed, intimidated and threatened by the BBC.

The most distressing one was an old women in a wheelchair who had one of these "people" come to her door and wouldn't leave, he even put his foot in the door so she couldn't close it.

He went on to forge her signature and set her up for court...............that later got threw out with our advice

 

[Hydro]

Why sign up to a rail forum just to wade into a throwaway discussion thread on TV Licencing? That smacks of single minded obsession more so than accusations of the same levelled at Ralph.

 

[Sao Paulo]

Frankly I've never studied the BBC accounts myself

Neither has the National Audit Office!

http://www.accountancyage.com/aa/news/2072721/government-reneges-nao-bbc-pledge
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Why sign up to a rail forum just to wade into a throwaway discussion thread on TV Licencing? That smacks of single minded obsession more so than accusations of the same levelled at Ralph.

Thought it was a discussion forum or are only opinions rather than facts allowed ?

Now shout at me if you like but I've shown him to be telling some untruths

 

[90019]

Going to answer or ignore my query, Sao Paulo?

Can you please quote where you have proved me wrong in this thread.

 

[yorksrob]

Neither has the National Audit Office!

http://www.accountancyage.com/aa/news/2072721/government-reneges-nao-bbc-pledge

Personally I think giving the NAO full access to the BBC accounts would be a very sensible step towards making the BBC more accountable to fee payers. However, I would see that as an argument for better governance rather than getting rid of the license fee altogether.

 

[Sao Paulo]

Going to answer or ignore my query, Sao Paulo?

I've not ignored anything, I've been posting facts with sources of information
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Personally I think giving the NAO full access to the BBC accounts would be a very sensible step towards making the BBC more accountable to fee payers. However, I would see that as an argument for better governance rather than getting rid of the license fee altogether.

And how would you feel if they found the waste to be HUGE, they clearly want to hide something.

Why does one broadcaster need £5 billion?

 

[ralphchadkirk]

I've not ignored anything, I've been posting facts with sources of information

So I am an autistic obsessive BBC employee then. Thanks for yelling me that fact - I hadn't realised.


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[Kier]

I just like to make sure the facts get through and not some Fishburn Hedges PR. I help people who are harassed, intimidated and threatened by the BBC.

The most distressing one was an old women in a wheelchair who had one of these "people" come to her door and wouldn't leave, he even put his foot in the door so she couldn't close it.

He went on to forge her signature and set her up for court...............that later got threw out with our advice

I think your resistance website is fantastic at exposing the BBC for the horrible, bullying organisation they really are as well.

Some people here would do well to read it.

 

[Hydro]

Some people here would do well to read it.

I'm OK, thanks.

 

[90019]

I've not ignored anything

So why have you not responded to this then?

Can you please quote where you have proved me wrong in this thread.

 

[Kier]

I'm OK, thanks.

So you think sending out threatening letters is an acceptable way to treat people? Or sending people around who often threaten and intimidate single mothers and pensioners?

 

[Hydro]

So you think sending out threatening letters is an acceptable way to treat people? Or sending people around who often threaten and intimidate single mothers and pensioners?

How does me not wanting to read that website imply my approval of such behaviour?

 

[Sao Paulo]

I think your resistance website is fantastic at exposing the BBC for the horrible, bullying organisation they really are as well.

Some people here would do well to read it.

Theirs also a guy who lost in a Magistrates court to the BBC but later won when he took them to a higher court where the law is truly enforced and followed.

The higher courts wont be enticed by BBC courses or free magazines

http://thejusticeofthepeace.blog.co...nse-evasion-should-be-a-civil-matter-8917052/

 

[Kier]

How does me not wanting to read that website imply my approval of such behaviour?

Never said it did.

However, that website is a real eye opener into how our "beloved" Auntie conducts herself and her true nature and I think everyone should be aware of it.

 

[yorksrob]

And how would you feel if they found the waste to be HUGE, they clearly want to hide something.

Why does one broadcaster need £5 billion?

If that were to be found, then I would say that they would need to undergo some reform and that this would have to be overseen by an outside organisation such as the NAO. However, that is still not an argument against the license fee itself.

As to why does one broadcaster need £5 billion - I honestly have no idea how much it costs to run a TV channel or radio station. That said, I think there is a valid argument that the BBC should perhaps concentrate license fee resources on existing channels rather than expanding into other areas.

 

[Sao Paulo]

So why have you not responded to this then?

What like this

Do you honestly believe that anyone who supports a company must be on their payroll?

Never said that, not once. I've said that some of the wording I see is identical. There isn't really a genuine reason to force people to fund one broadcaster over the others these days so the pitches are the same.

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If that's the case you really are very deluded. Perhaps you should toddle off and put your tinfoil hat back on before the government mind rays from the detector van get you.

You see insults and pushing the TV Detector Vans, perhaps you could explain how they keep missing me...................21yrs without a BBC TV Licence remember

 

[ACE1888]

Out of date and unnecessary, BBC don't advertise then??? Try all their own products then...

 

[Sao Paulo]

If that were to be found, then I would say that they would need to undergo some reform and that this would have to be overseen by an outside organisation such as the NAO. However, that is still not an argument against the license fee itself.

How about millions of people who would like a choice. You see if the BBC is so good why the need to force people into paying?

You also forget the people who end up with fines and sent to prison are low income families who have fell for the BBC PR.

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As to why does one broadcaster need £5 billion - I honestly have no idea how much it costs to run a TV channel or radio station. That said, I think there is a valid argument that the BBC should perhaps concentrate license fee resources on existing channels rather than expanding into other areas.

Well if you follow the media news you will see radio and TV funding is being reduced while expenses seem to keep being wasted.

A lot of the staff redundancies are just a farce too

The BBC pledged to become “significantly smaller” by sacking 2,000 staff yesterday, but immediately struck a deal with unions to allow departing employees to return as freelances after three months.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...4/Thousands-of-jobs-to-go-as-BBC-shrinks.html

Think Champagne Socialists and you see the BBC today

 

[Hydro]

Never said it did.

So you think sending out threatening letters is an acceptable way to treat people? Or sending people around who often threaten and intimidate single mothers and pensioners?

Sounds quite accusing to me.

 

[90019]

Funny how they always start with the insults when proven wrong.

I'm curious where you've proven me wrong?

The opinions put through as fact regarding the BBC

Can you please quote where you have proved me wrong in this thread.

Now, try answering the actual query, please.

 

[hantsman1205]

TV licence worker made fake reports
10:12am Thursday 9th October 2008 in Where I Live

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TWO Sidcup residents received court summonses for not having a television licence, when one did not even own a television, a court has heard.

Father-of-four Oluwagbenga Olaniyan, aged 45, of Oak Road, Gravesend, made up interviews with the Sidcup residents, because he feared losing his job, Maidstone Crown Court was told.

Olaniyan was working as a TV licence investigator and was given a target of tracking down one licence dodger an hour during his 37-hour working week.

Those who did not reach their targets were in danger of losing their £16,000-a-year jobs.

As a result, in 2005, Olaniyan fabricated four interviews, two with people in Sidcup and two in Gravesend.

The first they knew was when they received the summonses with a copy of their “interview”.

If Olaniyan’s activities had not been discovered, they could have faced fines of £1,000.

Olaniyan pleaded guilty to perverting the course of justice and four charges of false accounting. He was given a 40-week jail sentence, suspended for two years, and ordered to do 200 hours of unpaid work

 

[Sao Paulo]

Now, try answering the actual query, please.

I've already given you one, I'm still waiting for the D/Vans, where are they?

 

[90019]

I've already given you one, I'm still waiting for the D/Vans, where are they?

Did you really take that comment seriously?

 

[Max]

Since my request has been ignored, I am left with no choice but to close this thread.